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Seabee M38A1 Build

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by tymbom, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. Oct 1, 2021
    tymbom

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    More hardtop stuff...
    Since I don't have any doors or the tailgate I mounted it down on the tub rails. I had trim the front edge over the windshield, but that part was all mangled and bent anyway.

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    Because I needed to trim away the flange on the bottom of each side of the hardtop, I wanted to reinforce the edge. I welded a length of this small rectangular tube along the bottom edge, then trimmed it to look like an upside down L shape.

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    Here you can see from the inside. The upper leg of the L is on top of the tub rails.

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    The back part got trimmed down. You can see the button heads that I used to bolt it down with. They match the button heads on the rock rails.

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    The front corner of the top needed spreading to fit down on the windshield frame. I need to take the top loose so I can weld up the gaps, I'll probably just form a new corner and put it on. There's a bit of Bondo on here for some reason...

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    I rolled out some sound deadener to quiet the drumming these things are famous for. It works pretty good, the top feels solid and doesn't sound like you're riding in a oil barrel.

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    Then I welded four angle iron tabs on the roof so I can secure things like the swag or surfboards, kayaks, canoes...

    So now to get to work on the doors. I have a pretty ambitious plan, but I think I can pull it off. I'm going to build two piece doors so I can have a half door. The window in the upper part might be fixed, or a two piece window that slides forward or backwards like my first jeep had.

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    It's hard to see in this picture, but the door window is split with a slight overlap. You could slide the forward part back, or the back part forward depending on how you wanted. Either way was just big enough to get food from the drive thru. As long as you didn't go full fat kid and order the whole menu. That's it for now, thanks for checking it out, laters
     
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  2. Dec 10, 2021
    tymbom

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    Time for a progress report... So far I've managed to get two half doors almost built and working... And I built a tailgate that I don't like and I'm already planning to throw away and start over on...

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    This side is less finished. I need to round the corners on the hinges and add some 1 inch square tubing for the top part to mount to.

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    And the tailgate. I made the bottom half so it can be lifted out. The fuel cans block the bottom of the opening, so if I want to be able to open the tailgate with the fuel cans mounted, I needed to make the opening smaller. Having the lower panel lift out makes it a bit easier to lift heavy things and put them in the back. So I tried to make the tailgate as light as possible by not building and frame work behind the sheet, but it was too floppy. I added some bracing, but it's just not good enough. The lower edge is all wavy and buggered up. So it's getting redone. I'll take some more detailed pics to help explain the upper door plans...
     
  3. Dec 10, 2021
    tymbom

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    So here is the inside of the door. The skin is just some 18 gauge that was bent over a 2x2 bar. That gave the panel some rigidity. Then behind the hinges is a flat bar that is 2 inch wide by 3/16ths. The 1 inch box tubing is about 8 inches long, with a cap on the bottom end, and a 3/8ths hole. The plan is to build the upper door with two posts that will slide into the 1 inch box tubing, then I can bolt it through the bottom. That way the upper part is not a floppy rattling mess...

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    The door latches are a basic old school style that I found on a website that sells parts for building teardrop trailers. Thanks for checking it out. Now that it looks like we're getting some snow this weekend I'm a little more motivated to get this stuff finished up...

    Plus I have a heater waiting to be installed as well. Laters
     
  4. Dec 20, 2021
    tymbom

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    More progress...

    Here is the upper window frame before I added the outer skin.

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    And the skin spot welded on, with the window opening cut out.

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    Both doors are just about done to the same point. I cut the window opening with a jigsaw, so the cuts aren't perfectly straight, I probably should have clamped a straight edge on the panel, but it's nothing I can't clean up with a flat file. I have a sheet of 3/16ths polycarbonate for the windows on the way. Also, I braced up the tailgate so it's not so floppy. I'm pretty pleased with how the doors have turned out. I plan to add a couple more features that you guys will see later... Thanks again for checking it out. Laters
     
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  5. Dec 21, 2021
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    Lookin' great! Good work!
     
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  6. Dec 24, 2021
    tymbom

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    There's nothing funner than tearing the dash panel out of a built, running jeep... Yeesh. The cage had to come loose from the dash, and the the windshield needed to be folded down, so the hardtop needed to be pulled loose as well... The whole time we were doing this stuff I was kicking myself for not putting the heater in while I had the tub off and the dash off... Oh well... The heater is the shiney black box in the middle of all that mess...
     
  7. Dec 25, 2021
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  8. Dec 26, 2021
    tymbom

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    So here's the link for the heater. I bought two, one for me and one for my dad.

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-991108

    Depending on the depth of your guages and your speedometer, it might better to push it towards the passenger side more. M38a1s have a huge battery box in the cowl that takes up the passenger side. Mine fits perfectly between the main wiring harness and the battery box. I converted my battery box into a tool box so I don't want to loose any space. I have a cheap GPS speedo, so I don't have to worry about the speedo drive cable.

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    A couple attempts to make something for the defroster hoses to connect to.
    I wanted something for the hoses to connect with so they weren't just shoved up into the dash.

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    I came up with the idea to build a manifold for both hoses to connect with.

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    A piece of 1x2 box tubing fits perfectly inside the dash rail under the windshield. I didn't angle the hose fittings because the windshield frame is too thick for any angle to do any good.

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    Here is is in place looking up at the manifold. After putting it up there, I realized I could have angled the hose fittings towards the heater and saved the hose from being crushed.

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    You can hardly tell it's there...

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    Something to be aware of if anyone wants to copy my idea, the center bolt for the dash panel will go through the side of the manifold. I just marked where it was and drilled a hole to allow the bolt to pass through. Next up is a coat of paint and I'll probably bolt it in through the top of the dash with a little button head or something. Thanks for checking it out, laters
     
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  9. Jan 6, 2022
    tymbom

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    Grrrrr don't ya hate it when you're forced to relax. The other day I was getting up and drinking coffee, making my way out to the shop. I decided to throw some hay at the horses for my wife. I felt a little pitch in my back. No worries. I've had my back go out several times. Fast forward a couple days and my back is feeling better so we took off on a walk up the hill behind the house. I ended up with a pinched nerve making the muscles in in my left leg spasm for almost 3 days before I could get some relief. 3 or 4 days later and I'm starting to walk almost normal again. That's my excuse for not having the Jeep back together again...

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    In other news, the mirrors have arrived. These are a off road style of mirror that is meant for a buggy or something with a round tube to mount them.

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    I plan to cut the half round tubing off and make a mount that will work on the windshield frame. That way I have a mirror with or without the doors...
    I'll be back on this shortly... Laters
     
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  10. Jan 13, 2022
    tymbom

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    Heater plumbed and working... Here's the hoses routed out through the factory holes in the firewall. I need to support them so they're not just hanging there...

    I'm other stuff, I started painting the doors and tailgate. I'm trying to match the existing patina on the hardtop.

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    The paint is flaky and revealing most of the primer underneath.

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    Here's the tailgate part way through the process.

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    I think it looks pretty good. The edges of the paint I did are fuzzy and not flaky. The little botom panel shows how bright and new the paint would look. I think I'll try a different technique on the front doors... Thanks for checking in, laters
     
  11. Jan 18, 2022 at 10:49 PM
    tymbom

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    A view like this means only one thing...
    This is the north side of Mt Shasta, you have to be out on dirt roads to get this close.

    I finally made it out snow wheeling in the jeep...

    I got the windows in the doors and hardtop last night and we took it out for the maiden snow run.

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    The doors aren't finished on the outside yet. I ran out time for paint.

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    One of my favorite trails up the mountain has been washed out pretty badly in a few spots. We had a ton of snow around here a couple weeks ago, then it rained a bunch.

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    It was fun crawling up the gullies and notches, but it was taking forever to get anywhere. So we turned around and and went back down the hill and took another road up into Military Pass.

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    This pic we took after we had both been held up a couple times. I never got stuck, I just had to lower the air pressure a bit and rock it back and forth a couple times...

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    My wife had a great time, as did Dahliah and Toby Dog... The heater did pretty good. There's some wind noise around the front of the windshield and doors that need attention, but it was a successfull trip. I'll hafta update the door build later. Thanks for checking it out. Laters
     
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