t18 behind a f134?

so, i have got a t18 out of a cj (short input shaft) i also have an extra bellhousing from a t90. if i machine an adapter can i bolt the t90 bellhousing to the t18 and use it with my f134?

does this make sense? basically can i bolt up a bellhousing from a t90 to a t18 if i make an adpter? if so would i use the clutch, etc. from the t90? I also know that i need to use my d18 t/c but i am not worried about that part
anone do this?

thanks for any info

 

The F134-T18 topic has been covered before... use the search.

Basically you need to measure. Using a plate adapter requires that the stickout of the transmission be longer than the depth of the bellhousing. The pilot tip of the input shaft has to reach the pilot bushing in the end of the crankshaft with the plate adapter in place. You need to use a clutch that matches the splines of the input shaft (ie the T18). You also need to modify the pilot bushing or the pilot so that their diameter matches.

 

honestly, i did search. i am stupid and couldn't find anything. but thank you for info

i will search again

sorry


searched still couldn't find anything

 

No need to apologize. I recall reading about it recently. I'll take a look.

 

Try "134" and "T-18"

http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3533&highlight=134+t-18

 

I just bought a T-98 with the addapter plate if you need pics IM me

 

Nobody makes the parts required to do this because 'everyone knows' that all 4 cylinder engines should be replaced with larger engines that don't have mufflers. Hence the adapters are all for larger engines.

I have a F-4 t-98 and a I-6 t-18 input shaft that I'd like to take to a shop and tell them to machine the t-18 stickout dimensions to match the t-98. I haven't found a shop that is willing to tackle this yet, but then again, I haven't looked too hard either.

Now, while the two shafts are almost identical, they are not interchangeable, but if the t-18 had the same stickout dimensions as the t-98 one ought to be able to put the 'new' t-18 shaft back into a t-18 and have a functioning unit since the changes would be to the stickout and not the gears or bearing surfaces themselves.

You'd have to get a bearing retainer; archer brothers in california used to make them out of some aluminum and a t-90 bearing retainer. They tried to sell me a half completed one a month or two ago. I think that making the bearing retainer would be straightforward once you had the shaft.

You'd also need to modify all the clutch linkage from the pedal to the fork, drive shafts, the floor transmission cover plate, and the transfer case levers.

On the other hand, why would one need a 6.32 granny gear in a four cylinder jeep to begin with?

 

Ok, I'll take that bait.

I wouldn't word your statement quite that way - I'd replace "larger" with "more modern" and leave out the muffler part. I like quiet mufflers.

Personally, I think it's a bit quixotic to try and mate the F134 with the T18. The main reason you'd keep the F134 is for the nostalgia, and replacing the T90 with a more modern, non-stock transmission while keeping the F134 seems a little, well, inconsistent. There are plenty of replacements for the F134 that will make your choice of transmission much wider using available adapters. Not neccessarily a bigger engine, but one with better performance, say the AMC/Jeep 150.

 

No bait.

Re-read the last line of my previous post.

I mostly agree with you.

About the mufflers, I have yet to experience NOT hearing an engine in a jeep wherein the engine has been swapped for a larger engine.

But then, I am more sensitive to noise pollution than most people.

However, not everyone agrees, and that is what would make the t-18 installation interesting...

I think a t-5 swap would be interesting too, but that was tried and discarded by Advance Adapters years ago.

 

I 've always liked that idea. Lower first gear than a T90 plus an overdrive for the F or L head, would be plenty adequate for that application.

 

uhhhhh. . . yea, so anyway I was going to put a t18 in my jeep behind a f134. . . .

thanks for the info, i think? lol

and no, i won't instal a t5 in anything! been there, done that!

 

Aluminum gear box in a ECJ-5 , nahhhh R) . Whats the differance between the 18 and the 98 as far as the case goes?

 

What ever became of this?

 

Well I know an early iron duke with an adaptor will work with a T-18 I've done it. As far as a jeep with a larger engine goes, I have a 59 with a 289, fender well headders, and some kind of muffler, with what looks like 1 1/2" tail pipe. It very quite.

 

i know that he got everything to work, i think he machined an adapter between the tranny and bellhousing but i could be wrong. i also think he put dana18 gears in the dana 20

 

If attempting to adapt the T-18 to a Willys 134 the selection of the maindrive gear (input shaft) is one of the main concerns.
Ford T-18 is 1-1/16 " ten spline while Jeep T-18 is 1-1/8" ten spline.
International Harvester T-18 is yet another yet more complex possability.
This infers that the clutch must allow for something other than the Willys CJ standard of ten splines @ 15/16" diameter.
If you install the optional 9-1/4" Auburn clutch you can potentially adapt the 134 to a T-18 via installing stock Willys (Borg Beck) driven disk.
I'm specifically referring to the 9-1/4" driven disk that was used with certain (not all) Jeep Station Wagons.
Those specific SW's are 226 Super Hurricane powered with T90 transmissions.
They utilize the 9-1/4" Auburn clutch with Borg Beck driven dsk having 1-1/8" diameter ten spline.

Now that only addresses the maindrive gear diameter.
One must also address the "OAL" of the maindrive gear and the thickness of the bellhousing adapter.

 

Hermtheoverdriveguy is working on a kit for this but not sure how close he is. Last I spoke to him about it he was close but not there yet. This was a bit ago. We were also working on a kit. It is the main drive that is part of the issue but also the front bearing retainer and front adapter. It's more complicated than it seems at first to make it all fit. We shelved it for a while to work on more saleable products until we have the extra time and money to re-visit it.