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Let's talk frames...

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by garage gnome, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. Jan 18, 2011
    garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

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    Ok, the Jalopy's frame is kinked and bent in two spots. So, I figure I have 4 options.

    A) straighten the frame and hope for the best
    B) Swap it out with a 3B frame, but there is some rot.
    C) Swap out with a CJ5 frame and make it fit. This one is in good shape. Already has :v6: motor mounts in it.
    D) Build a whole new frame. :twisted:
    Which option would be the least painful? I'm leaning towards building a new frame.

    B and C both have bodies (both shot), engines and trannys on them.

    Here are the kinks:

    This one is on the driver's side about half way down. :shock:
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    This is on the passenger, right under the battery tray.
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    garage gnome, Jan 18, 2011
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  2. Jan 18, 2011
    Mike S

    Mike S Sponsor

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    In order-----

    D. C. A. B.

    Option A includes fish plates, boxing, reinforcement as needed
     
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  3. Jan 18, 2011
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    C or D - I am doing a "C" right now as I have a '63 5 frame I am putting a '49 3A body on. Keeping the position of the 225/T98/D18 that was in it. New body mounts for a 2" body lift, slight movement in the hole for the Tranny, Tcase. I just finished cutting the POs firewall/floor hack out tonight and am going to put some floor pieces from another scrap flattie I have in to polish it up.

    It's a rig for my middle boy.
     
    Warloch, Jan 18, 2011
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  4. Jan 18, 2011
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    C
    out of what options you gave yourself
     
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  5. Jan 18, 2011
    Bill F

    Bill F Finally running

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    I would go with C
     
    Bill F, Jan 18, 2011
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  6. Jan 18, 2011
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    I agree with "C". You get longer springs in the rear and a stronger frame from a 2a to boot. Some mods needed but not too bad....
     
    nickmil, Jan 18, 2011
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  7. Jan 19, 2011
    garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    We have a frame straightening machine. My dad wants to try that. Personally, I'd like to used the 5 frame.
     
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  8. Jan 19, 2011
    bobracing

    bobracing web wheeler

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    bobracing, Jan 19, 2011
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  9. Jan 19, 2011
    garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

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    garage gnome, Jan 19, 2011
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  10. Jan 19, 2011
    duffer

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    My take here is how long you want to wait before driving it again. The 5 frame would have a lot of advantages in the longer springs at both ends. The problem I would have is once the tub was off and down to bare frame, there would be a very long list of other modifications that would happen and a good year long project.

    If it was mine and I wanted to use it as you did, I would try to get the kinks out of the frame, plate it and use it. Given the condition of jalopy, I would then start another project jeep for an eventual replacement-something you can make the way you want it from the start and not feel too pressured for time or $. If I did use the 5 frame, it would certainly be fully boxed-makes one hell of a difference.
     
    duffer, Jan 19, 2011
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  11. Jan 19, 2011
    CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    I agree...:tea:
     
    CJ5aTim, Jan 19, 2011
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  12. Jan 19, 2011
    bobracing

    bobracing web wheeler

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    Re: Lets talk frames...

    I hate it when they do that, Jay did a nice job on that too.
     
    bobracing, Jan 19, 2011
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