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Dana20 rebuild

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mokkcj5, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. Nov 18, 2008
    mokkcj5

    mokkcj5 New Member

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    Hi.


    I started to rebuild a project Dana20 that I am planning to put in my-56 CJ5.
    When I bought it it was full off water so i need to totally disassemble it.

    Thanks to the great advise on Novak web pages i was able to get this far

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    But now i am stuck and need help.Can someone please explain how can i take appart
    the gears and bearings from the front output shaft.

    This is the first time(total newbie) i am rebuilding the transfer case so please adwise
    on even the obvious things.

    And for those who will suggest that i should just get a better one from junkyard, i need to tell that i am from
    Finland Scandinavia and that won't be an option. :)
     
  2. Nov 18, 2008
    LarryD

    LarryD Member

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    If I recall correctly you tap on the output shaft carefully so as not to damage threads. This drives the bearing out and allows the shaft to be removed.
     
  3. Nov 18, 2008
    mokkcj5

    mokkcj5 New Member

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    Yep, I did that and now the saft is loose from the case itself but the problem remains.

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    I still need to get the bearings of the shaft, How do i do that without breaking anything ?
     
  4. Nov 18, 2008
    EricM

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  5. Nov 18, 2008
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    I'm sorry I don't have the answer to your question, but I have a question of my own.

    Are you planning to use that Dana 20 in your '56? The stock rear should be an offset Dana 44 and that is not compatible with the centered output of a Dana 20 transfer case. The stock transfer case should be a Dana 18.

    I know I'd be just a tad upset if I went to the trouble to rebuild a transfer case only to find that I couldn't use it...
     
  6. Nov 18, 2008
    mokkcj5

    mokkcj5 New Member

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    I am planning on using SBC 350 and TH350 combo . So wanted to go with a little bit beefier
    axles than than the c-clip D44 it used to have.

    Luckily I got was able get transfer case , drive shafts, and front and back axles from the same donor jeep.
    so i do have the correct rear Dana 44.

    That rear axle was actually the reason why I needed the Dana20 as well.
     
  7. Nov 18, 2008
    mokkcj5

    mokkcj5 New Member

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    Thank you for the link.

    I did read the instructions again , but still i am not getting it.

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    --snip

    16. Wedge the front output shaft front bearing away from the main drive gear to allow removal of the snap ring from its groove in the shaft. Then, tap the shaft and rear bearing out of the case (Fig. 8).

    [Editor’s note: Your J-shift case MAY NOT have the aforementioned c-clip on the front drive output shaft in between the bearing cone and the high speed drive gear. If not, note that the front bearing cone is mildly pressed onto the shaft at the splined area. You are able to CAREFULLY (with a light hammer and a soft drift) tap the shaft assembly toward the rear of the case, driving the front bearing cone off the shaft. You can now remove the shaft assembly.
    --snip

    I just can not see a snap ring anywhere, and i can not wedge the front bearing away from the gear.

    Could it be a factor that this particular D20 is the -65 to 74 model with 10 spline input ?

    most of the instructions i have found are for the earlier version or the Bronco version of D20.
     
  8. Nov 18, 2008
    LarryD

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    I believe I was able to pry the bearing off the shaft. I think I used a Pickle fork.
     
  9. Nov 18, 2008
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    I seem to remember something about using a flat-head axe head with a U-shaped notch cut out of the center of the blade. This was a home-brewed attempt at making a pickle-fork but it worked!
     
  10. Nov 18, 2008
    EricM

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    That is described in the dana 18 rebuild guide:

    http://www.willystech.com/wt/Model18TCase/Model18TransferCase.html

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    I used a pickle fork too.
     
  11. Nov 18, 2008
    LarryD

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    I'm thinking if you drive the shaft the other direction it will press the bearing cup out giving more room. Maybe this pic helps.
     
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    timgr

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    timgr

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    Yes, that sounds right. Something like that.
     
  14. Nov 18, 2008
    mokkcj5

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    OK, I will give that a try. :)
     
  15. Nov 18, 2008
    timgr

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    There's a good picture in that article I linked.

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  16. Nov 18, 2008
    trickpatrick

    trickpatrick Done? LOL

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    I did mine last summer and you dont need the axe thing.
    thats for the 18 case.

    I used a gear puller if I remember right.
     
  17. Nov 18, 2008
    nickmil

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    Two small flat chisels. One on each side between the bearing and the shaft. Once you get it to move you can use larger chisels carefully or a couple of pry bars. There are some model 20's that use a snap ring behind the bearing very similar to the 18. I've mostly run into them from early Bronco's and Scouts. Yours may or may not have one. If it had a spacer between the yoke and the bearing then it shouldn't have a snap ring. Once that bearing is off the shaft will slide out the rear of the case. If you can tell for sure it doesn't have a snap ring you can carefully drive the shaft out the back of the case.
     
  18. Nov 22, 2008
    mokkcj5

    mokkcj5 New Member

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    Thank you all,

    That did the trick

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    I just needed to use bigger hammer R)
     
  19. Nov 24, 2008
    Topmason

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    LMAO @ myself though, sounds like something I'd do!R)
     
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