Axle shafts

I have been trying to find a good used set of Spicer axles for a D25, early CJ, with no luck.
I have a set that came from a Copmmando D27 that are a little long so I decided to cut them and weld them back together at the proper length. The only trouble is that I have not been able to find out what the exact length is.
Can anyone help me here?
Thanks,
Tommy

 

Where you at? I have a set for sale.

 

yikes

on those Commando shafts, all that's needed is to cut one end of one shaft off
forget now which end, I think it was the inner axle end
and not very much needs to be cut
I have a set of used front axles here
what measurements do you need ?

 

I've had an ad in the wtb for about a month with no results.
I would like to know the total length of both axles. Since the stub ends are the same I can cut the long side.
The long axle appears to be approx 3/8-1/2 shorter than the Comando axle.
Hepl is appreciated,
Tommy

 

short side inner = 13 1/2 "
long side inner = 26 3/8"
measurement taken from end of shafts to center of ujoint cap/opening
hope this helps

 

oops ..you asked for overall
short overall - 21 1/2" approx
long overall - 34 3/8" approx

 

If they are cut off on the inner shaft end will there be enough machined surface for a proper seal at the inner diferential seal? In other words can I cut the end as opposed to the center?
Thanks,
Tommy

 

The inner seal surface is pretty wide and should be ok if you cut off the end, but carefull measurements will tell you for sure. DO NOT CUT THE SHAFT IN THE MIDDLE AND WELD BACK TOGETHER! I don't care how good a welder you are. The chances of getting the shafts true again are very slim. The other thing, shafts are designed with a certain amount of twist to them. That's why they neck down. When you weld them back together not only are you changing the molecular structure of the metal and creating stress risers, you will be taking out the ability for the shafts to twist in this area creating severe weak spots. You are also affecting the surface heat treating that give the shafts their strength. Asking for major problems IMHO.

You posted in the classifieds, and that is a good thing, but did you try any of the vendors in the post of where to buy parts? That would be my next effort if it were me. Just because none have come up on this board doesn't mean there aren't any available out there....

 

I know the Commando axles are slightly longer
I've never been able to figure out why
I ran into this when I went to sell a set of axles from a Commando
the buyer worked at a machine shop and was going to shorten them; no big deal to him
I really can't remember now whether it's the inner or outer that's longer
I'd have to lay them side by side and look at them to be sure
Nick, you ever run into this before ?

 

Yup. It's the inners that are longer. The outers are the same as CJ. I never was able to figure out why they did that either...

Edit: I've found Scout 80 and 800 27 outers to be the same length as CJ's also..

 

I have a mid 60's Scout 80 D27 and the entire short side shaft (right side) is the proper length for my 48 cj2a D25. The long side (left side) outer is also the correct length. The long side inner is too long. The Scout steering knuckle, spindle, king pins and bearings are all the same as the Willys D25/D27.
I am going to upgrade to a D30 in the near future so if the OP would like to save himself some time and money I have a good used D25 5.38, open that has been rebuilt and upgraded to Spicer shafts, larger brakes, and studs for the king pins and spindles that I would sell. I also have a good set of rebuilt tie rods and bell crank, and spare set of Spicer shafts.
If you cut and weld an axle shaft it will temper or essentially ruin the heat treating of the axle shaft making it soft. This might be ok for a trail spare to just get you off the trail to a trailer. But it will not work for daily use.

 

Thanks to everyone for the help.
I now have a set of axles on the way.
I have been convinced that welding on axles is not a good idea.
My next project is to replace the front springs (CJ2A) and try to eleminate the severe driver side lean.
If anyone has a good (and inexpensive) matched pair please let me know.
Thanks again to all,
Tommy

 

I know this is not the topic here but I have new rear springs and I noticed that one front spring is 1/2" longer than the other hence my mention of a matched (same size) pair. I have done a search and the consensus seems to be to just live with it but because of the difference in front spring length I can't help but think that is part of the problem.
I checked some photos that were taken before this project began and noticed that this jeep sat fairly level then. Now there is about a 2" difference from left to right. During the rebuild I replaced the very worn original springs with a pair in better shape but did not notice the difference in size.
Before I start swapping left to right I want to make sure both sides measure the same.
So, if anyone has a pair of springs to sell please let me know.
Tommy