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Mechanical clutch linkage

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by 1968Jeep, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. Jun 10, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    So far I have been unable to find parts for my clutch linkage - it does not look the same as any parts diagrams I have seen to date....
    Somewhere along the way, someone swapped in an overhead pedal set-up from a newer CJ.

    I'll start from the release fork - it attaches to a cable that then attaches to the pivot tube (mounted between the frame and transfer case), which then attaches to a long rod that runs toward the front of the Jeep. This rod is attached to a pivot assembly bolted to the frame rail just behind the drivers side inner fender liner. Then there is a rod that goes from the pivot block up thru the firewall and attaches to the clutch pedal.
    Whew..... that's a lot of typing.....

    Here's where it gets interesting.....
    I attempted to swap in the A.A. chain linkage kit - bolted right in, not binding or hitting anything - linkage is moving nicely. But - I bent the rod that goes from the pedal thru the firewall and attaches to the first pivot block - Has anyone run into a problem like this?? Any suggestions?
     
  2. Jun 10, 2008
    nickmil

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    Can you post pics? That would give a much clearer picture and maybe help identify the parts used in the conversion.
     
  3. Jun 11, 2008
    jeeper50

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    I thought the AA kit was only for floor pedals, post a pic if you can.
     
  4. Jun 11, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    I'll take some pictures in the next day or so, but I have removed the transmission and transfer case to inspect the clutch.
    As far as I can see, the pivot tube, cable and clutch fork are original pieces from the floor mounted pedal set-up.
    The strange thing is the whole thing worked decently enough, I just wanted to eliminate the binding when going off-road.......should have just left it alone I guess..... oh, well..
     
  5. Jun 11, 2008
    krawl

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    If I understand you correctly I have a setup similar to yours, here are a couple pictures of mine.

    The hanging clutch pedal is connected to a bar that goes through the floorboard (where the original clutch pedal was located):
    [​IMG]

    then under the body that connecting bar is attached to what used to be part of the pedal lever, which has been cut and welded at a different angle (Just don't look at the body mounts lift installed by the PO):
    [​IMG]

    Is this what your clutch setup is like?

    It works fine with the chain linkage I have installed, but at some point I would like to remove it and install a hydraulic clutch. I am not a huge fan of this design.
     
  6. Jun 11, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    Close, but the rod from the pedal goes thru the firewall and forward - just like a '76 CJ set-up. The pivot bracket is mounted to the top of the framerail behind the inner fender liner - then a rod goes back to the original pivot tube assembly.
     
  7. Jun 12, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    OK, let's see if this works -
    the rod that goes from the clutch pedal to the pivot has been removed to attempt to straighten it -
     
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  8. Jun 12, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    a few more pics-
     
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  9. Jun 12, 2008
    1960willyscj5

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    That is a hefty set of rods you got there. Mine aren't any bigger around than the cable that goes to the fork and t/o bearing.

    What did the down rod from the clutch pedal attach to in that first pic? Doesn't look like there is any fulcrum point there.

    The chain would replace everything from the first picture all the way around to the fork, eliminating the rod, cross shaft between the tranny/tc and the frame and the cable. Right?
     
  10. Jun 12, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    in the 5th picture the rod attaches to the tab you can see there....
    I installed the chain linkage in place of the pivot tube - that's the only piece I removed -the chain attaches to the large rod that comes rearward from the front pivot, then goes thru the sprocket & bracket unit and the threaded end of the cable attaches to the other end of the chain.
     
  11. Jun 12, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    also the 8th picture
     
  12. Jun 12, 2008
    1960willyscj5

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    That is the down rod attachment point, then?
    And when you push the pedal toward the front of the JEEP, that down rod gets drawn upward? , which would be opposite of what the thru-the-floor pedals would do.
    Pulling up on that tab would push the other rod to the rear, instead of pulling it toward the front like it is supposed to, right? Or am I seeing this all wrong in my head, which is entirely possible. The ol' imagination ain't what it used to be, let me tell you!
     
  13. Jun 12, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    No, it works just like the original - you push the pedal down, the rod moves downward, which causes the rear rod to be pulled towards the front of the jeep - just like it would be with the original set-up.
     
  14. Jun 13, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    here are the pics of the rod that goes from the pedal to the front pivot block - this is the rod that is bent....
     
  15. Jun 13, 2008
    1960willyscj5

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    Now why is it that when I read your signature I get this picture of a funny looking little guy wearing a strange brush-topped helmet and speaking with a high squeaky type voice?:?

    Left over Saturday Morning cartoon withdrawals? Trauma from Lady Di Wedding pre-empting the afore mentioned Saturday Morning Cartoons?:?
     
  16. Jun 13, 2008
    1968Jeep

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    Now, where did I put the PU-37 detonator???????
     
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    Duck Dodgers in the 21st Century!
     
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