Thread Split - Tim's 53 CJ3A

ok this might be a stretch so let me know what you guys think... many of you have done axle swaps in the past and i never have so maybe this is a good idea... maybe not. This ebay listing is about 20 minutes away from where i live and its his second time listing it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...m=150024983699&ih=005&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

only thing i want it for are the axles and the steering column... i figure i could buy it up... pull out the axles and the column and either part out or scrap the rest.
dude says that the brakes are in good shape... so the question is... how difficult would it be to sling these under my flattie? I'll be doing a Saginaw steering conversion and installing my 2.5" superlift springs at the same time. another big concern is... can i still use the frame mounted master cylinder with the brakes on these axles? (i believe them to be Dana 44's). ok i know i've written a lot so lets see what you guys think. thanks!

 

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D44's from a '79 Waggy here too. I went outboard with all the springs. Used an MC from a later CJ (disc front, drum rear). No residual pressure valves (had aftermarket RPV's from Wilwood, but the system wouldn't work right until I removed them). The axles were wide, but not too bad...

Here's a few pictures. 36x12.50's on hummer beadlocks cut and recentered to 3.5" of backspacing to clear the high steer arms. Also included a picture of the rear outboard mount I used (this is for Dan Stewart).

 

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now THATS what im talking about!!! Sick Rig Tim!! looks awesome!!!

ok guys... ive finally figured out what you mean by outboarding... i think im going to have to put this one on hold for a while... a little too much modification for the time being... its going to start getting pretty cold up here soon and i want to spend more time wheeling and less time cutting and welding (for now!) but its definitely in the future plans.

thanks guys!

 

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dang, tim sweet rig.

yeah what tim said. outboard front definetly, i also suggest outboarding rear for stablitly. master cylinder off waggy to be esay, adapted with a bracket made to work if you want to keep frame pedals. soa or sua which ever you want, do research and get some help. and remember wider is better.

 

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would love to see some more picture of that flattie and whats under the hood....please

 

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And remember - if you don't outboard the rear, you'll have to set the passenger side spring purch on the pumpkin itself. You can see in that bottom picture how close the perch is, even with the outboard mounts.

Mike is right - I kept the original pedals and frame mounted MC. I just did some simple modification to the original MC support bracket, and I made my own MC mount (since the stock MC has bolts that go through the frame).

It's time-consuming work, but it's not all that difficult.

 

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225 V6 - what else?

I have all of the pictures of it on my home computer. I can post a picture later tonight. Basically it just looks like a 225 in a flattie. Jim Johnson (jpflat2a) has an awesome looking engine bay. If he reads this, I'm sure he'll post up.

Sorry for the hijack Andy.

 

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More pictures anyway. I checked your links on Lulu and Granny and they look great. Hook us flatty owners up too.

 

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Thanks. I had all the pictures of the entire build on a webshots account, but it remained dormant for so long that they just deleted all of them. I was a little ticked. I've been trying to come up with another place to host all of them. Only problem is that it takes so long to upload to Webshots or Flickr or Photobucket. It would probably take weeks to get them all uploaded.

Here's one I do have on this computer - this was the day I bought it... for $500.

 

Moderators Edit - I split this away from Andy's message b/c I felt like we were losing sight of his original question.

 

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thanks Tim, but awesome ???
no, I don't think so
stock 225 with a stock air cleaner, how boring is that
ask away, who needs pics and of what ?

 

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Yeah - but it's really clean - the wiring and the lack of leaks - and it looks like it came from the factory in there.

Don't be so modest!

 

sorry for stealing away and going off topic but love the looks of your ride.

 

Engine Shot:

 

Tim- Thanks for sharing!

 

HOLY CRAP! I'm jealous...I gotta run out to the shop and work on something...anything...I'm way behind!

 

That's where the headers go. I just realized yours is the same paint as mine exept I went with flat.

 

What springs are those?