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strength of a dana 27

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jason, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. Feb 20, 2005
    jason

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    how do they hold up, i mean to the abuse of being locked and wheeling hard on the rocks with 33'' to 35'' tires. i want to run a one with U-joints in a mid engine buggy i am building, it will be light and under horse powered ( using a GEO 3 cyl and an auto tranney ).

    another ??? would flipping the axle without turning the knuckles affect the kin pins and how will the caster/camber be, i know the axle will run backwards but i need to run that way, thanks jason.
     
  2. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    That is like a buggy im building, it should hold up. Mine are smaller then a dana 27 and held up for years with a 4 cyl with a 3 speed, now im going with a toyota 4 cyl with a auto more power yet and im hoping it will hold still. PS mine is heavy and the spiders are welded together.
     
  3. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    Oh i looked mine axles came out of a vovlo car both axles are, one is upside down but then it does not have knuckles or anything. It turns by articulating in the center. if u want more help i will try to help u.
     
  4. Feb 20, 2005
    jason

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    is your set up the using a mid engine like i am, are you runing two steering axles or one, i to will be runing welded spiders but not sure if the front will push steer, this is why i thought of two steering axles this, way i could get 4-wheel steering and no lockers to buy. got any picts of your rig, jason.
     
  5. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    Mine has no steering axles, pics are located at http://community.webshots.com/user/budtoh3zo i have not personally ran it yet, my grandpa used to run it hunting. He used to carry moose that weight 1000 plus pounds in the back of it. As for locking up the front it will cause it to push steer but for the traction i find it worth it, it depends what ur going to use it for. The pics are of the tear down, im putting it back together now im going to have up dated pics as soon as im done painting it.
     
  6. Feb 20, 2005
    DanStew

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    I just love that buggy David. So cool.
     
  7. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    Thanks dan, She is just about painted the motor is droped in, all that is left is wiring, rad mounting and paint.
     
  8. Feb 20, 2005
    jason

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    i like it, how do you steer it tho, with brakes? jason.
     
  9. Feb 20, 2005
    DanStew

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    I am now thinking bout making a buggy myself like that. could make a real lightweight, put an Fhead in cetner of the frame. starting to look for my crack pipe now
     
  10. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    no it turns in the middle with the hydrolic ram as it pushes it articulates it one way then as it retracts it pulls it the other way like some tractors do
     
  11. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    LOL Dan dont worry with that buggy i have had to borrow ur crack pipe a bunch of times lol
     
  12. Feb 20, 2005
    DanStew

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    Now that my buddy is collecting alot of jeep parts i could get some make and make something :) Guess i can do that after i get the axles doen on my jeep
     
  13. Feb 20, 2005
    jason

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    dan you can take a hit off of my pipe, if you search around pirate you will see alot of peaple building these types of buggys. i have had jeep before ( 57 willys, a couple of cj-7's and now a 48 willys with rockwells ) i just like idea of a front seat mid engine buggy, this way i can see all the bumps in the road.

    we established that they should hold up fine what about the caster/camber. if i flip the axle will the kin pins hold out too, they look like they would work fine because there are two on each end ( upper/lower ) so the upper become's the lower and will it transmit the load the same, jason.
     
  14. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    i believe that the king pins will hold up i just dont know about the caster and camber i beleve you should be able to adjust it enough.
     
  15. Feb 20, 2005
    jason

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    thats what concerns me now, is if its adjustable enough, its only going to be a trail only buggy very low speeds but i still dont want it to be unsteerable, jason.
     
  16. Feb 20, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    if it is low speed it does not have to be exsact you can be out abit just u will wear your tires uneven but what i beleve is that it will work farily well and be able to adjust to your needs.
     
  17. Feb 21, 2005
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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    Not much of a front end guy, but the only adjustment available to you with a d27 is toe in toe out. if you flip the axel with out flipping the ends, you will have a dog of a time steering even at low speed. if you are looking at crawling over rocks in precarious postions wouldn't you want your steering to respond the best it was designed to? $.02 :coffee:
     
  18. Feb 21, 2005
    timgr

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    Certainly easily breakable in a Wagoneer with oversize tires. Recall these cars came with an AMC 327 or Buick 350, and weigh about twice as much as a CJ. Repair or replacement in those vehicles isn't very cost effective - better to find 44 axles from a later vehicle.

    A lighter foot and/or vehicle should make them last longer.
     
  19. Feb 21, 2005
    budtoh3zo

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    Also his motor is not putting out much power as and his is lighter and my axles are weaker then the onces jason is going to use. The major differance is i have 2 drive axles with no steering. So that part im kinda in the dark for. Pull a Dana 27 out put it upside down and see how far its out, on my CJ5 i would put a dana 27 in the back for 4 wheel steering with out even thinking. A 3 cyl GEO dont put out much power rember.
     
  20. Feb 22, 2005
    ScottP66CJ

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    Re: strenght of a dana 27

    If you are locked in the front with that 27 you will break axles. My frind has a 27 with a lockright and 33" tires and when he gets bound up in front they break. He averages 2 breaks a year.
     
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