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Whitco Roll Bar?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by njranger, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. Jul 20, 2013
    timgr

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    Looks custom to me.
     
  2. Jul 20, 2013
    Bob-The-CJ

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    Looks like the roll bar out of a old Toyota FJ40 to me.
     
  3. Jul 21, 2013
    timgr

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    Yes it does. I would think the FJ-40 bar would be too wide for a CJ though.
     
  4. Jul 21, 2013
    jpc

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    This jeep is a early built 1970.?
    That could be a Sears roll bar. I have an advertizement for it some where.
    My Oct69 built 1970 CJ5 has one just like it. I have not found any marks that prove it is from Sears.
    The add also has one of the level/angle gauges that stick to the dash. Mine has that also.
    is the bottom angle iron with 4 bolt holes and 2 separate backer plates in the fender well?
     
  5. Jul 21, 2013
    MarkK

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    Yeah, it's an early build 70, and Sears would make sense. I'm the tow headed kid in the back. I'm not sure on the mount as the jeep has been sold. I'm fond of this style as it made sitting on the back fender wells easy. It does not look as strong though. You could also sit on the back bar. Not that we would ;)
     
  6. Jul 21, 2013
    jpc

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    the clue for the early build 70 is the reflector on the hood instead of the fender.
    this was also done on similar year commandos.
    I have not seen many with the hood reflector and I have looked.
     
  7. Jul 21, 2013
    Admiral Cray

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    I believe this is a Smittybilt Roll Bar for an early CJ5. When I bought the bar it came with the small box with two backing plates that match up to the roll bars mount holes.

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    I have not found any information on the bar. I am not sure how it mounts with the stamped ribs on the fenderwells.
     
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  8. Jul 21, 2013
    timgr

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    Could be. I vaguely recall a "type 1" and "type 2" Smittybilt roll bar.

    This is what I think a Whitco bar should look like:

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    and a Smittybilt bar -

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    I know that my '73 CJ-5 (in 1973) had a Whitco, and there was no roll bar for my '75 CJ-6 other than a Smittybilt. See the similar design here -

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    The hoop goes all the way to the floor in a CJ-6.
     
  9. Jul 21, 2013
    Admiral Cray

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    Tim, do you think mine is a Whitco Bar rather than a Smittyblit? I am only going by what was on the box with the back up brackets in it. The brackets do match up to the holes in the roll bar's mounting angles and they do look like the brackets in the photo in the add you posted.
     
  10. Jul 21, 2013
    njranger

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    Cap-n-Cray,

    Can you measure up your angle for me as well? The flat stock on mine has a different hole pattern.
     
  11. Jul 22, 2013
    timgr

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    Two possibilities -
    1) the box of hardware does not go with the roll bar, and the bar is a Whitco.
    2) the bar is a Smittybilt, but of a different design meant to imitate and compete with Whitco.

    Smittybilt is still in business. You could call them and maybe they can tell you more.
     
  12. Jul 22, 2013
    colojeepguy

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    I bought a brand new Smittybilt rollbar for mine about 15 years ago, and it looks just like this.
    They don't make them anymore.
     
  13. Jul 22, 2013
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    I have the same roll bar as cap-n-cray. For those of you with one mounted, are there bolts through the sides of your body? Mine has them, and they look sloppy to me. They are just on the edge of where the body curves outward. There are washers under the bolt heads with one side sawed off because of the curve of the body. Looks like a hack job, but I cant see how it would be avoided.
     
  14. Jul 22, 2013
    68BuickV6

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    Important distinction. Thats a later Smittybilt. The earlier style looks like the OPs photo with slightly larger tubing.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2013
    Admiral Cray

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    Scott, The roll bar mounting angle is 3/16" thick - 2 1/2" x 2 1/2" angle x 25 3/8" long. The angle starts 3/16" from the front tube. :D
     
  16. Jul 24, 2013
    jpflat2a

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    Smittybilt made both types shown.
    One was a straight brace bar, like Cap-n-Cray shows; the other was called a competition bar.
    We sold the competition style Tim has shown in his Jeep.
    I might still have the catalog here.......
     
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    68BuickV6

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    I've had both. I liked the comp. bar better.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2013
    njranger

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    Thanks! I looked at those flat stock bases on mine again last night, and they "might" have been modified. The are 3/16" stock though.
    One thing that I kept noticing was that the Whitco has the crown in the top tube and it appears from the add, the Smittybuilt doesn't. I'm pretty convinced that mine is a Whitco.

    Now for mounting it up (not that I'm anywhere near ready for that): What's the rest of the hardware supposed to look like?
     
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