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No oil filter?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by twodogs575, May 8, 2013.

  1. May 8, 2013
    twodogs575

    twodogs575 New Member

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    Hey guys. So I've been slowly working on my 58 CJ5. Was going to change all the fluids and junk which got me thinking. After all the crawling around I've done on this engine (F134), I don't recall seeing an oil filter anywhere. I head out to the garage and sure enough, no oil filter to be found. What's up with that? Was it an option. Did a PO remove it? If so, how would one go about replacing it. Sorry if this is an ignorant question. This is my first (of hopefully many) old Jeep project. Learning as I go.
    Thanks
    Jeremy
     
  2. May 8, 2013
    willy s. flatfender

    willy s. flatfender Member

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    The F-head has a canister oil filter not a modern spin on filter, look upper left behind fan as you face front of engine.

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  3. May 8, 2013
    WorkInProgress

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    that is actually on upper right, not left. aka passenger side. If you're unfamiliar with changing this style filter its very simple, you simply unscrew the bolt in the top of this canister, pull the lid off and there should be a large filter inside which usually has a wire handle to easily lift the filter out of the housing. and when you put it all back together make sure you still have a good condition gasket for the lid of the housing or you will soon have no oil. Trust me on this, been there done that. :cry:
     
  4. May 9, 2013
    willy s. flatfender

    willy s. flatfender Member

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    Are you sure that's not the left as you face the front of the motor?
     
  5. May 9, 2013
    WorkInProgress

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    As your facing the motor yes that would be on the left. But whenever your talking placement on vehicle its always left or right from seated facing forward in the seat. if you order a new fender for your jeep and you ask for the left fender, they are going to send you a drivers side fender and if you ask for a right fender they will send you a passenger fender every time.
     
  6. May 9, 2013
    68BuickV6

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    WorkInProgress

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    Ooops my bad, I just re-read your post and I must have overlooked where you had told him it was "as your facing the motor," I apologize, I guess I had a blonde moment :oops:
     
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    WorkInProgress

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    68BuickV6 that's sure a pretty motor. one day mine will have its rust replaced with some actual paint
     
  9. May 9, 2013
    68BuickV6

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    I can't take any credit, it's forum member jasonjp62's 4 134. I just searched through the forum for a good picture. :beer:
     
  10. May 9, 2013
    twodogs575

    twodogs575 New Member

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    Yeah, I saw that picture earlier when I was searching. That's a beautiful engine. Unfortunately I do not have one of those canisters for the filter. Took a picture with my phone this morning but haven't had time to upload it yet. My engine runs good and I have good oil pressure. I've seen where some people run without a filter and change oil frequently. Does anyone see a problem with that?
     
  11. May 9, 2013
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Oil filter was optional IIRC
     
  12. May 9, 2013
    twodogs575

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    That's what I was thinking. I can't see where it was bypassed or anything
     
  13. May 9, 2013
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    What's the serial number on the engine? I'm pretty sure that by the time 5's came out that filters were standard equipment, but you might have an earlier engine out of a truck or 3B. You may find as well that the PCV system doesn't exist or yours if that's the case.

    H.
     
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    twodogs575

    twodogs575 New Member

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    The engine number is 4J1225511
    The Vin is 57548 38082
    I've questioned the year of this thing. The plate says it's a 1958 but the serial number doesn't jive with the charts I've seen.
    Is there a chart for the engine numbers as well?
     
  15. May 9, 2013
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Somewheres there used to be a rough list of engine serial numbers and even factory re-manufactered engines that included CJ5's numbers but I can't find it now :(. Going by the number series on the 3B page i'd say your's is one of the later ones but i can't say for sure. Could be someone simply striped the filter off yours at some point.

    H.
     
  16. May 9, 2013
    twodogs575

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    Okay. Just figured it out. Someone HAS removed the filter. They just cut the lines and crimped them shut. I would assume that this is bad. I'll be hunting for a canister set up, or maybe I'll just put in an aftermarket remote filter. Thanks for all the feedback!
    Jeremy
     
  17. May 9, 2013
    jasonjp62

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    i bought one from ebay for next to nothing a while back. might start there
     
  18. May 9, 2013
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    I'd start by putting a Want To Buy ad in the classifieds here. Someone may have one collecting dust...


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