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Rack and pinion steering in a willys

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by garage gnome, Aug 17, 2010.

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  1. garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

    garage gnome, Aug 17, 2010
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  2. all4jpn

    all4jpn Member

    im waiting for the update..hmmmmm
     
    all4jpn, Aug 17, 2010
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  3. lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

    Don't we have a member in Arvada that can go check this out, get some pics?
    Joe, are you in/near Arvada?
     
    lynn, Aug 17, 2010
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  4. all4jpn

    all4jpn Member

    bump to the top because im way curious
     
    all4jpn, Aug 17, 2010
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  5. sammy

    sammy Coca-Cola?

    IMO...Racks are for independent suspension, which is where they should stay.
     
    sammy, Aug 17, 2010
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  6. mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Didn't a forum member's Jeep come with a rack when he bought it. Said something about bumpsteer.
     
    mb82, Aug 17, 2010
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  7. sammy

    sammy Coca-Cola?

    I'm thinking weird tow in/out as the axle articulates.
     
    sammy, Aug 17, 2010
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  8. mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    IIRC the rack was attached to the axle.
     
    mb82, Aug 17, 2010
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  9. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    There's a lot I'm not getting from reading the description but it seems that they only connect the rack to the passenger side hub and a regular tierod from there across to the driver side hub.

    H.
     
    Howard Eisenhauer, Aug 17, 2010
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  10. sammy

    sammy Coca-Cola?

    So they're doing cross over with it? it's 4000 times easier to go saginaw IMO....
     
    sammy, Aug 17, 2010
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  11. Long&Low

    Long&Low Active Member

    Well the factory put IFS on front ends of FSJ's....anything is possible
     
    Long&Low, Aug 17, 2010
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  12. djcj3a

    djcj3a Member

    Aren't they just using the rack to push/pull the bell crank? That's what I got out of the article. Seems like it would work pretty well.



    <edit> I was mistaken, after re-reading, It appears they attach the rack to to driver side knuckle. Not sure how well that would work in a jeep with a fair amount of flex. I do think, however, that attaching a rack to the bell crank from the frame might actually work pretty well.
     
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    djcj3a, Aug 17, 2010
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  13. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    That was my first take on it as well, like you I had to read through it a few times. I'm still trying to figure out exactly where the darn thing mounts, from my reading it seems to be right in the middle of the radiator:rofl:

    In this case I think a picture would be worth *more* than a thousand words.

    H.
     
    Howard Eisenhauer, Aug 18, 2010
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  14. electricontr

    electricontr Member

    I live in Wheat Ridge, Colo., right next to Arvada. I left a message on the ewillys site to get some contact info. I'll pass it or pic's along if they respond.
     
    electricontr, Aug 18, 2010
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  15. all4jpn

    all4jpn Member

    he has an add on the front page of ewillys..green,right side
     
    all4jpn, Aug 18, 2010
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  16. curtcanada

    curtcanada L, L, and the POH!

    Did you ever investigate this?
    Posted via Mobile Device
     
    curtcanada, Apr 17, 2011
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  17. uncamonkey

    uncamonkey Member

    I headed to Arvada last summer to see what's up with this.
    He didn't have anything in his shop to show me other than a few pics.
    There was supposed to be another install going on in a few weeks, he was going to call me, I never got a call.
    I might try again in a few weeks, my brother is still interested too.
    The price sort of scared me off ($600+ for parts)
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2011
    uncamonkey, Apr 17, 2011
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  18. nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    Dauntlesspowered's Jeep had rack and pinion steering when he got it. It was a mess.

    Why re-invent the wheel? Saginaw is heavy duty enough to handle the stress of off-road use, you can minimize bump steer, and it flat out works! Too many issues with Rack and pinion like finding one small enough to fit but heavy duty enough to hold up...
     
    nickmil, Apr 18, 2011
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  19. electricontr

    electricontr Member

    The rack is mounted under the left frame rail, not under the radiator and it just pushes and pulls the passenger side spindle arm.
     
    electricontr, Apr 18, 2011
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  20. w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

    I guess I'm missing something here, what do you gain with R&P over saginaw?
     
    w3srl, Apr 19, 2011
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