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Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by Old Doug, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Old Doug

    Old Doug Member

    I was Told to ask about my oil leak here.I got a M38a1 that had not run in some time. when I got it started Rear main seal leaked so i replaced it bearings looked good. I started driveing it and RMS steal leaks. I have a cj2a It had O miles on rebuilt engine when i got it it leaked i replace it and it leaked so I drove it and years later replaced it agin and it dryed up. The 2 RMS on 2a looked like it had only touched in center of seal. Has some one had this problem?
     
  2. 58 willys

    58 willys Sponsor

    It could be that where the seal comes in contact with the crank is worn
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2012
  3. Old Doug

    Old Doug Member

    As you know i have my engine out replaceing clutch. I was talking to a buddy about oil leak he said a rope seal would fix oil leak what do you think?
     
  4. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Did you use the rubber seal?

    There's been a lot of discussion of this earlier: https://www.google.com/search?q=sit...fficial&client=firefox-a&source=hp&channel=np

    I recall that Walck's (? - nope - see the first thread in the link I posted above) had rubber RMSs made that are of higher quality than the usual import RMSs. The rope seals are ok, more modern rubber (neoprene?) seals are considered better. Rope seals are kinda hard to install with the engine in the car.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2012
  5. Old Doug

    Old Doug Member

    I put a rope seal and it is as bad as ever. I have been doing mechanic work for 30+ years and have replaced a lot of RMS and they allways worked. I am very disapointed. What is the deal? I will drive it Until bad weather and tear it down again.
     
  6. Old Doug

    Old Doug Member

    My first seal was rubber.Second seal was rubber. third is rope.
     
  7. cpt logger

    cpt logger Member

    Hey Doug, As an aircraft mechanic of 25+ years, I am begining to wonder if it is the Rear Main Seal (RMS) that is leaking. Could it be perhaps the "freeze plug" in the aft end of the camshaft bore? I have a hard time believing that a mechanic with your experiance would have, and install three bad Main Seals. I also do not think that you would miss a bad seal area on the CrankShaft (CS), at least not three times. If it is not the Cam Bore plug The what else is on or near the rear of the block that could leak? Look around, I doubt that the RMS is your problem. I could be wrong here, I have been in the past. IHTH Good Luck, Matt W.
     
  8. Old Doug

    Old Doug Member

    I have thought a lot about it and the oil could be comeing from some were besides the RMS. When i pull it back out i will borrow a buddeys test stand and run it out of the jeep to see were it is leaking. I want to start on another jeep. But need to fix this ones oil leak first.
     
  9. w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

    Iirc there is at least one Allen plug in the oil galley in the rear of the block near the cam plug . Maybe 3????
     
  10. nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    Rocker arm cover leaking in the back can give the illusion of a rear main seal leaking. Have you verified it's engine oil and not transmission fluid that's leaking?


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  11. Old Doug

    Old Doug Member

    Oil is comeing out of bell houseing plug. I could presureize engine with a air over oil tank.
     
  12. nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    Sorry, brain fart about the rocker cover. Forgot dealing with a flathead :shock:ops



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