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Brake/Clutch Pedal Bearing

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Paul Black, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Feb 28, 2017
    Paul Black

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    Noob. One of the brake/clutch petal bearings is missing from the under tub linkage. Is this a part that can be sourced or do I wing it? I have wanted this Jeep since I was 10 years old. Any help you can shed on appreciated.
     
  2. Feb 28, 2017
    Twin2

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    I am guessing your talking about the cross over bracket mounted on frame
    remove it and take to local machine shop with the clutch cross shaft . have new bushing installed
    the brake pedals wear also . so you might want to have that bushed as well
     
  3. Feb 28, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Can you identify the part in this diagram?

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    H.
     
  4. Feb 28, 2017
    PeteL

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    What year and model jeep?
     
  5. Mar 1, 2017
    Rick Whitson

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    Nice diagram Howard, shows everything.
     
  6. Mar 1, 2017
    Alan F

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    Just to be clear there are no bushings. The shaft wears in the bracket and the brake pedal arm wears on the shaft. You can have it bushed (as suggested above) or replace the parts that can be found repro. The parts are Bracket 24-08 and Shaft 24-08 from the diagram above. You may also need the brake pedal arm that is not detailed.
     
  7. Mar 1, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Thanks :)

    Took me all evening to draw it :D

    H.
     
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    jpflat2a

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    Wasn't it determined that back when the crust of the earth was cooling that the military version of the frame bracket did have bushings for the shaft to rotate on ? And was a much more heavier duty bracket ?
     
  9. Mar 1, 2017
    45es

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    Looking at the military manual TM 9-803 (dated 22 February 1944) that covers the MB and GPW jeeps no bushing is shown. There is a zerk fitting to lubricate the shaft but again, no bushing.
     
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    jpflat2a

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  11. Mar 25, 2017
    Jim Eyster

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    Great diagram. My brake pedal has a dangerous amount of side play. I've gotten it stuck behind the accelerator pedal! For those of you that have encountered this problem, does the shaft wear, or the arm? The arm is a casting, so I would guess it would wear first.
     
  12. Mar 25, 2017
    PeteL

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    Jeep even once had a dealer kit for this. It took up side play with an adjuster nut on the end of the shaft.
     
  13. Mar 25, 2017
    Jim Eyster

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    I would make a nut if I thought it would help, but it looks like the brake arm is held in place by just a washer and cotter pin. If the shaft is in good shape, bushing the arm would be the ticket.
     
  14. Mar 26, 2017
    PeteL

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    Agreed. The nut arrangement replaced the cotter pin.
    Here is another arreangement.

    http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/840/medium/23Pedal_Repair.jpg
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    "LIST PRICE $1.80" o_O

    I once tried washer shims at the cotter pin, it helped slightly - but the real answer is re-bushing.
     
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  15. Mar 26, 2017
    Jim Eyster

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    Oh, nice! A picture is worth a thousand words!
     
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    This is what you want. Pic from ebay. It is stock to a M38A1. The bushing is brass and you can see it in the pic. As said, much beefier. Has zerks, etc. I am not certain, but i believe this will bolt right up to a CJ5, but at any rate, if you have to drill a hole or two, it's going to be worth it.
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  17. Mar 26, 2017
    Jim Eyster

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    Well crap! I just should've kept my M38a1! Does that replace bracket 24-08?
     
  18. Mar 26, 2017
    gunner

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    Yeah, I like the A1s.
    I believe it will replace the 24-08 but you might have to make a hole or two and adapt a bit. Also, at least one guy on the forum has fabricated his own version of the 24-08- very heavy duty.
     
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    PeteL

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    Seems to me that at least one pedal bore will probably still need rebushing.
     
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  20. Mar 27, 2017
    Jim Eyster

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    My clutch pedal seems pretty good, the brake is the bad one. It might be one of those things where i fix one and realize how bad the other is!
     
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