Transplant recipient ideas?

OK, so I have a reasonably well sorted out 225 V6 with everything but a carb/FI system. I also have a nearly completed CJ2A restoration with a few 'invisible' mods.

When I finish the 2A, I will be looking for a vehicle to plant the V6 (with HD truck 4 speed/D18) into. Not sure if I should looking for an early pre-'65 CJ5, a V6 CJ5 or CJ6… or ?

This is for trails, bird hunting, camping and general messing with. I have the Flat Fender, an F350 4X4, and a Landcruiser, so no particular hurry, this would be a reliable, drivable vehicle with some entertainment value (fun to drive). Not adverse to some work, but I don't want to spend years on it.

Looking at lots of ads, etc. and can't decide what is next. Suggestions?

 

I like flatties but as you know, there is a serious space deficiency, especially under the hood. And then there are the short springs. All fixable but I think I would be looking at a 5 or a 6 also. For what you're going to do, I doubt the year makes any difference. You will be replacing axles anyway-sooner or later. The main factor for me would be just finding a tub I could live with without the huge money/time sink of fixing a rusted out hulk.

 

Thank you for your suggestions. I was thinking maybe a pre '72 CJ with the V6 factory option. I don't mind (actually like) the mechanical work, but after what I am going through with my flattie tub - I would REALLY like to minimize the body work part. I hate welding 18 gauge sheet metal - and I'm not very good at it.

I do have a decent '48 lefty tub - currently for sale - but the CJ5/6 would offer more 'comfort' when I'm bird hunting in bad weather. I especially like the CJ6 with half cab - has room for some dog boxes in the back. Maybe I can find one in the next year that isn't too beat up.

Chuck, I've seen some of your work on your website and what you have done with engine/tranny/Tcase combinations is the direction I would like to go.

This is my '47 at elk camp prior to starting 'restoration'.

 

You could always build a rail-type vehicle with a flatbed type of cargo area.

 

OK, so I found a possible candidate - 1966 CJ6 with 225 V6 - engine, tranny. Tcase all work. Floors seem to be good. Some wrinkles in the body sheet metal - but no diamond plate to hide ugly stuff. Owner says that it appears to be 'all stock'. Seats and dash look good. Lacks a tailgate. Has a Ramsey PTO winch mounted that looks in good shape. California vehicle.

Couple questions -

- What would the winch be worth if sold?

- the '66 CJ6 with V6 had what transmission?

- Was the Tcase still the standard small hole D18?

- what was the axle gear ratio from the factory?

 

Thanks for your response, Glenn.

The T86 is pretty much like the T90, as I understand.

I am more familiar and comfortable with a Warn or Superwinch electric unit.

Is there a place on the D44 axle that indicates the gear ratio?

Lastly - is the bell housing on the '66 CJ6 the same as the usual BOP bell housings of the era?

 

The t86 is a lot like a t90. quieter but a real PITA to double clutch into first.
Winches, all of my friends have winches, my PTO on the 3B seems to be the one that gets used.
It's always fun to watch the "magic smoke" escape out of an electric winch and I can't tell you how many times we shoveled snow on one to keep it cool.
The D44 would have come from the factory with a plate mounted between 2 cover bolts, but that is probably missing and may not actually apply to what's inside. The only real way to see what you have is to pull the cover off and check the numbers stamped into the ring gear. It's always good to change the lube anyway.

 

I believe the stock gearing for a 66 225 would have been 3.73 or the 4.88's as an option. As for the T86, don't bet a lot of money on that. It could well have T90 guts in it-the most common remedy for T86 failure.

As for smoking electric winches, I have been using them for 45 years and have yet to experience that. But my experience has been all Belleview and Warn. Way less pieces and weight than a PTO setup. I really don't think there is a big demand for PTO units these days except for the period correct restoration crowd.

 

Not really. There are some that are similar and some that are markedly different from the Jeep V-6 bellhousing so beware.

 

Thanks, all.

Mike

 

All Dana axles had ratio tags on them, so lots of times if the rear is missing, you can check the front. USUALLY the tags match what's inside... but after nearly 50 years, who knows.

I have a K30 dually that someone paid to have 4.10 replace the 3.73 and on the front 60 they actually put the 3.73 ratio tag back on. Why I'll never know. And yes, it has 4.10 in both ends!