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Your advice about Jeep painting, please

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by Alan28, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. Apr 21, 2014
    Alan28

    Alan28 Well-Known Member 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    My Jeep, after 3 years of restoration, is OK. I am happy.
    But the color is not perfect, and the color of origin was a blue/green.
    The PO made a new color, french army Sahara (souvenir of colonial wars?), but this paint is in some places going away and we see the first color below.

    How can I make a new paint without going to the raw metal??

    Thanks in advance.

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    Very strange : I had a friend with a dark blue Wrangler; he came to my shop to make a new color, french army Sahara.
    Is it an epidemic? Well, when he was young, he lived there, his father was in the army. The Wrangler was of a very nice color, after painting, it became not really fantastic.
     
  2. Apr 21, 2014
    timgr

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    If the paint is coming off, you have to remove it. There is no cure for peeling paint other than total removal down to a stable layer. If the blue paint is still well bonded to the steel, you don't have to remove it. But you will have to remove any yellow (Sahara) that is peeling. It will be difficult to remove just the Sahara and leave behind the blue. I would remove it all.

    Your options are mechanical removal (sanding or media blasting) or chemical removal (paint remover). Which do you prefer?
     
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    timgr

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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Unless you're willing to go to extreme lengths, i.e remove the tub & strip it down bare, fix all the rust issues & fill all the dents , I think you'll be better served to sand down the problem areas & repaint it the yellow colour.

    H.
     
  5. Apr 21, 2014
    Alan28

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    Well, thanks. I was sure that there was something wrong somewhere. I would prefer the original color.
    To be frank, I'll wait some time before looking at paint questions.
    I know chemical solutions, not really pleasant. The sand solution, I don't like it too much.
    Sand is the enemy of mechanics, engines, etc...
    To dismantle the Jeep to get the parts to paint is above my strength.

    When I'll get some money, I'll look at a pro shop, they have the good tools.
    I don't want to have sand coming into the engine.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I've been known to take paint off jeep tubs with a belt sander & some 80 grit belts. Works beautifully on the flat parts, not so well on the curves :(

    H.
     
  7. Apr 21, 2014
    Alan28

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    Well, hand work, I know. If I consider that in a week I have cleaned all, a week or 15 days, going slowly, it can be done.

    And then how do I paint? with a brush? Can I use hammerite paint? Or do I need an air paint system?
     
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    Johns1967CJ5

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    See if you have someone local that does soda blasting. I had 2 restorations done that way, can't be beat IMO. Just removes paint, will not damage anything else, not even glass
     
  9. Jun 26, 2014
    teach

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    Here is another possible idea for stripping paint. I had great luck stripping paint on stairs/trim work in my house on wood with an old heat pan stripper. They don't make them anymore, but if you can locate one, they are fast, and no mess like chemicals. Then a quick sanding and you might be all set to prime. The heat stripper has a handle with a cord to it, then extending about 12" out from the handle is a rectangle metal pan (about 12" X 6"), with some heat coils on the underneath (like in a toaster). You just hold the heat pan over the area to be stripped for a few seconds, and then use a puddy knife/paint scraper to push the paint off. It is actually pretty easy to do, much less effort and dust then full sanding. Not certain how it works on metal but seems like it should work.
     
  10. Jun 26, 2014
    colojeepguy

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    I agree with this, except mine was media blasted (little plastic pellets)
    Leaves you with bare sheetmetal that looks brand new!
     
  11. Jun 26, 2014
    supertrooper

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    You dont have to strip all the paint. Sand the parts that are flaking off with 220 grit sand paper until the loose paint is gone. Then go over all the parts you want to paint with 400 grit paper until the gloss is gone. That is done so the new paint has a good surface to stick to. Wrap the engine in plastic if yor worried about the sanding dust. A roll on enamel paint job is probably the cheapest wey to paint a home with out buying a lot of special equipment. http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/body/hrdp_0707_1962_ford_falcon_budget_paint_job/
     

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