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Upgrading Steer Linkage.

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by panzer, Aug 24, 2009.

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  1. Aug 24, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    I'm planning on upgrading the linkage on Lizzy.
    It's a '66 w/ stock steering linkage/Ross Box.
    I'm planning on getting Herms set up and just
    want to make sure this is all I need.

    Steering Linkage Kits

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    Complete Steering Changeover Kit without Gearbox or Pitman Arm - includes long tie rod, short tie rod, 4 tie rod ends and jam nuts. Extra Heavy 1" Thickwall Tubing - $145
     
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  2. Aug 24, 2009
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That and some grease and you should be set. Watch tie rod to spring clearance on the pass side-I don't remember if you have a lift. Iirc I cut off one spring wrap/clamp for clearance.
    Posted via Mobile Device
     
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  3. Aug 24, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Thanks Mike.

    I have a 1" over stock spring lift. I checked the clearance.
    It looks good. Looking forward to the upgrade.

    Thanks again Mike.
     
    panzer, Aug 24, 2009
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  4. Aug 24, 2009
    SIDSCJ

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    Is this going on a Ross box (ala Jeepster) or one piece to eventual Saginaw or other swap??
     
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  5. Aug 24, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    This is the upgrade.
     
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    SIDSCJ

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    OK, Herms' ad doesn't make it too clear as it's listed w/his conversions page. Also says "w/out gearbox or pitman arm" which made me think it wasn't for the Ross box.
     
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  7. Aug 24, 2009
    Patrick

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    If you do have tie rod to spring clearance issues, just put a 1* (or 2* if you want the extra caster) shim under the axle. I just (today) put in 3*, but I had 2* just for that reason.
     
    Patrick, Aug 24, 2009
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  8. Aug 25, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Patrick, it's looking like I'll be OK on the clearance. But I will keep that in mind
    during the installation. Thanks guys.
     
    panzer, Aug 25, 2009
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  9. Aug 25, 2009
    unclebill

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    panzer
    was anything the matter with the stock parts?
    or do you just want a stronger setup?
     
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  10. Aug 25, 2009
    Patrick

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    The one piece tie rod keeps toe in at a constant where as the stock setup allows toe in to change with suspension travel.
     
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  11. Aug 25, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Nope, nothing wrong w/ the parts. Just tired of
    fighting the steering. This set up will eliminate
    the wander the CJ has. Just like Patrick said.

    Been wanting to do this swap for a while. Just
    never got to it.
     
    panzer, Aug 25, 2009
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  12. Aug 25, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    One of the best things you can do next to just rebuilding everything if you are retaining the Ross box...
     
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  13. Aug 25, 2009
    jpflat2a

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    I would add that the addition of a two hole knuckle to the passenger side would make it even better.
    You eliminate the double tie rod end as both single tie rod ends terminate at the knuckle in their own respective holes.
    It also moves the pitman arm tie rod end further forward for increased leverage and easier manual steering.
     
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  14. Aug 25, 2009
    modified

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    2 hole knuckle on a stock D27 front axle ?:?
     
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  15. Sep 20, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Mike, I did the swap yesterday. Unbelievable difference. I had to used one of
    the orginal tie rods because the new one was way too long. The down tube
    seems to be about 2" to long. I'm going to get the tube shortened and
    threaded.

    My questions are:

    Was there any type of other changes you had to make? I seem to have
    enough clearance from the springs. Everything else seems to be good.

    Is this setup for a CJ w/ Saginaw steering? And not the Ross box set up?
     
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  16. Sep 20, 2009
    jasonjp62

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    This is an awesome swap....couldn't believe the difference it made in my 62
     
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  17. Sep 20, 2009
    alex211

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    Do you have any pictures of the swap? thanks
     
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  18. Sep 20, 2009
    Patrick

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    I could get a couple of mine if you like. Not really much to see...
     
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    jasonjp62

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    I gotta get a new card for the camera, but yeah could put a few on here.
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2009
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    I'll get a couple tonight. And again when I swap out
    the down tube in a couple of days. I'm waiting for the
    shortened tube. It's getting dropped off @ a machine
    shop today and they are cutting off 2" and re threading
    the inside.

    In the mean time I'm using one of the old tie rods in
    it's place.
     
    panzer, Sep 21, 2009
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