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timing issues with a 225 dauntless

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by billybbean, Apr 30, 2010.

  1. Apr 30, 2010
    billybbean

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    I am having a problem with my 225. Engine idles fine. when I give it any throttle it sounds like it is missing. I have dual exhaust and the miss is comming from the left side.I am firing good on 2,4,and 6. I can remove plug wires wile running on 1,3,and 5 all at the same time and there is no difference, other than the engine smooths out and sounds good. Any advice would be great.
     
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  2. Apr 30, 2010
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    either the firing order is crossed with the wires, or you have the wrong distributor, cap, and/or rotor.
     
  3. Apr 30, 2010
    billybbean

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    I'm pretty sure i have the right dist cap and rotor according to merls garage. http://home.off-road.com/~merls_garage/oddfire.html I have new plugs, wires cap dist, points and condensor. What do you meen by the firing order is crossed?
     
  4. Apr 30, 2010
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    plug wires not installed in the correct firing order of the engine.
    99% of the time when the whole bank or side of the engine is dead like you describe, it points to a distributor problem: even fire components on odd fire engine, or some other type of problem.
     
  5. Apr 30, 2010
    billybbean

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    I have spark on 1,3,and 5 but it appears to be firing at the wrong time. 2,4, and 6 seem to be hitting just right.
     
  6. Apr 30, 2010
    sparky

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    move the plug wires on terminal forward or backward?
     
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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    It would help to know which of the three distributors you have.
     
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    billybbean

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    I have a Delco distributor (odd fire)
     
  9. Apr 30, 2010
    billybbean

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    I tried moving plug wires both clockwise and counter clockwise. The engine won't run either way.
     
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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    history of ownership and/or engine history
    running fine till ????
    just looking for more of the story if you don't mind
     
  11. Apr 30, 2010
    billybbean

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    Re: timming issues with a 225 dauntless

    Just recently bought the jeep. It was running, but rough. I rebuilt the carb and replaced the plugs wires cap rotor points and condensor. Just trying to to give it a good tune up.
     
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    colojeepguy

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    Check your firing order 1-6-5-4-3-2
    Drivers side front to back 1-3-5
    Pass side front to back 2-4-6
     
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    jpflat2a

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    okay, so it's possible the problem existed before you got the Jeep.
    can you tell if the dist had been recently replaced ?
    if it's getting fuel to that side, then the dist is really the only thing left.
    if you had another you could try.........
     
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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    there are 2 different types of Delco dist caps
    one has the window between two towers; the other is positioned on one of the towers,
    (simply speaking).
    the rotors are the same.
    can you see your number stamped into the housing base of the distibutor ?
    ie 1108375 or something similar ?
     
  15. Apr 30, 2010
    billybbean

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    The number on the dist. base is 1112110 1F 23. The window on the cap is on the number 1 contact.
     
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    jpflat2a

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    which isn't a number listed for the V6 oddfire....
    I think someone at some time has installed a reman distributor.
    I believe that is your problem.
    the lobes on the shaft may not be in the proper position for points opening for your application (odd fire). I suppose you can check on line sources here and elsewhere that might confirm that.
    I've seen this problem many times over the years, and that's my best e-guess from what's happening and what you are describing.
     
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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    got anyone you can beg, borrow,or steal another dist from, Prestolite or Delco ?
     
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    billybbean

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    I have a feeling you might be right. Thanks alot for the info!
     
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    billybbean

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    I wish I had one I could rob for a while just to check. Is there any way I can verify the lobes on the shaft and confirm this dist is for an odd fire?
     
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    Just where in KS are you?
     

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