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Tapered Intermediate Bearing Numbers?

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by Jw60, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Jun 12, 2019
    Jw60

    Jw60 Recovering Jeepaholic

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    Does anyone know the timken or equivalent part number to replace advance adapters PN: 716304 and 716305 I want to use the same bearings on another project if they will work.
    Thank you!
     
  2. Jun 12, 2019
    johneyboy03

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    Same thing here....

    for the tapered bearing kit use on dana 18 and 20 ?

    when i got the kit two years ago form advance they supply timken bearing....i feel so stupid now that i put the boxe in the garbage.

    But i did tear down my t-case two months ago and the timken number were on the bearing.
     
  3. Jun 12, 2019
    oldtime

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    L 44643 bearing
    L 44610 cup
     
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  4. Jun 13, 2019
    duffer

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    Also both of those compose Timken's Set 14. I bought my last ones from Summit for a very reasonable price and they are USA made components.
     
  5. Jun 13, 2019
    sterlclan

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    Now all I need is the drawing for the shaft.
     
  6. Jun 13, 2019
    Keys5a

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    There is a shaft, and a "bushing" for the nut end.
    -Donny
     
  7. Jun 13, 2019
    oldtime

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    Thanks John... I did not realize those are available as a set.
     
  8. Jun 13, 2019
    Mcruff

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    You plan on making one? Not just a matter of making a shaft, will still need to be made from 4140 or 8620 and induction heat treated and drawn, plus ground to finished size for bearing surfaces.
     
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  9. Jun 13, 2019
    Jw60

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    The shaft kit is a good deal for most when you look at the material, tooling and time it would take to reproduce.
    To do it myself I would have to make 4, run the best of the lot, then wish I bought the kit.
     
  10. Jun 13, 2019
    sterlclan

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    I have a buddy that makes crazy shafts for paper mills and the like he owes me a huge favor or two ....
     
  11. Jun 13, 2019
    Oldriginal86

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    Would the shaft need to be hardened to that degree if it no longer has bushing riding against it?
     
  12. Jun 13, 2019
    Mcruff

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    As a general rule, yes. It helps to protect the shaft from nicks and dings, keeps the bearings from gauling the shaft when put on, and also protects the thread from stretching so easily when preloading the bearings. Also makes it easier to grind the shaft to a precision finish and size.
     
  13. Jun 14, 2019
    Keys5a

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    Just out of curiosity, when heat treating a shaft like this, is the ground finish to size done before or after the heat treating?
    -Donny
     
  14. Jun 14, 2019
    Mcruff

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    Generally done afterwords. Most steels will warp or grow slightly during heat treat.
     
  15. Jun 16, 2019
    duffer

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    I don't think the AA shafts are ground or hardened and don't even know if they are alloy. I had one that was soft enough that one of the bearings actually left an indention. Thought about welding it up and regrinding but just bought another.
     
  16. Jun 18, 2019
    Jw60

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    This is disappointing I might have to make a drawing or two.
     

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