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Swapping Out A Super Hurricane For A 225 Dauntless. How Much Trouble Should I Expect?

Discussion in 'Jeep Utility Tech' started by lightner, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Nov 29, 2018
    lightner

    lightner New Member

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    lightner, owner of a '59 pick up with engine issues. should i replace the super hurricane with an original or swap with a dauntless?
     
  2. Nov 29, 2018
    Jw60

    Jw60 Midwest traveler

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    If you don't already have the Buick 225 you might also consider a Buick v8 or Chevy. A Chevy would be cheaper and efi.
     
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    lightner

    lightner New Member

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    i am not sure i have enough room for a v8. i don't want a lot of surgery. i would also prefer to use the existing drive train. is the super hurricane a terrible engine? i am not really looking for high performance just a durable engine
     
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    Jw60

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    The adapters would be the same to retain the t-90j with Buick or Chevy v6 or v8. I wouldn't say the stock engine is terrible since it lasted this long. The issue I see is the cost to operate. If it costs 2x more to maintain an engine with the same performance there is a point at which the work pays off in due time.
     
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    47v6

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    Just look at the numbers. How much to rebuild what you have VS how much a replacement engine and adapters is. I wouldn't go odd fire unless you had one really cheap.. Engines on craigslist can be a bargain for one that runs..No rebuild required.. Chevy, ford...Citroen.:lol:
     
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    lightner

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    i am completely ignorant of engine swaps. i envision nightmarish details like clutch, brake, and throttle controls. exhaust issues. carving out fenders and fire wall. i am a bit nervous i would love to have a v6
     
  7. Nov 29, 2018
    lightner

    lightner New Member

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    "engines from eBay". i just purchased a 'running super hurricane', had it shipped and installed. the engine is nicely painted but pure junk. i am a bit leery of long distance purchases
     
  8. Nov 29, 2018
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member Sponsor

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    I love the super hurricane, they just need to be rebuilt correctly (just like any engine of couse). As mentioned, look at how long they've been around if you wonder about durability. They are relatively low rpm engines also. What kind of driving do you do as far as miles/distance /frequency?
     
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    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member Sponsor

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    What is junk about it? Smokes or knocks, doesn't run good?
     
  10. Nov 29, 2018
    Keys5a

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    I have Willys Wagons, different version of your pickup. The flathead 226 is durable, but getting harder to find parts for a rebuild. Kaiser Willys and a couple others probably have the parts, but they're not an inexpensive rebuild. They are kind of antiquated, but work fine for backroad driving.
    A Buick 225 or later 231 V6 is a potential swap, as are small Chevy or Ford V8s. An old Chevy 283 or 327 is an easy swap and are cheap to rebuild. I prefer the 283, but these smaller engines are getting hard to find too. The original Jeep T90 transmissions hold up to mild small V8s just fine, and adapter plates bolt right onto your long input shaft T90 to mate to a Chevy bellhousing. The only drawback of the Chevy engine is the rear distributor which may require dinging in the firewall in a small spot for clearance. A larger V8 like a 350 is a bit much for the original T90.
    The Buick engines may swap in with the appropriate BOP bellhousing just like the Chevy.
    All are good options. You need to go with what your most comfotable with.
    -Donny
     
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    colojeepguy

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  12. Nov 29, 2018
    lightner

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    sold to me as a complete running engine. distributor pedastal was broken, starter was no good and the water pump was no good. never did get it to fire. compression test showed ~
    9o psi. some scoring in cyl's. it appeared that a piston ring in #4 cyl let go. dent on edge of piston and lots of dings/scratches on head and piston. #5 was similar but not as severe. the engine definitely appeared to be a recent rebuild. (gaskets, ease of disassembly, clean). maybe someone forgot to fill the pan with oil before virgin start-who knows. she damn-well won't start now. oh well
     
  13. Nov 30, 2018
    lightner

    lightner New Member

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    i would like to know how to post a pic of my pick up instead of that pointy testosterone symbol. oh well
     
  14. Nov 30, 2018
    lightner

    lightner New Member

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    i do appreciate all the help and insight y'all have given. i may get this beast back on the road yet. there are many things i know very little about.
    and the beat goes on
     
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    Focker

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    Click on your name under the header (right side of the page) and then click on Avatar. This should steer you in the right direction.
     
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    Walt Couch

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    Welcome to the forum.
     
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    Greetings to the forum
     

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