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Rough Dauntless

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Brad Rabideau, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. Sep 24, 2004
    Brad Rabideau

    Brad Rabideau more Jeeps than sense...

    Shawano, WI
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    I've done a search and haven't really found a post explaining my problem or a fix to it (though I have a pretty good idea). As $$$ allows I've been working on the CJ-6. I've replaced or rebuilt the fuel tank, lines, pump, filter, and carb.

    The problem I'm having is that everyother time I fire it up (or so it seems) it won't run properly. When it runs good it has that Dauntless roughness at idle, but smooths out when you give it gas. However, occasionally when I start it, the motor seems as though its only firing on one side. When I give it gas it does not smoothout. There is no power and it misses pretty bad. If I let it try to idle it will die. When I do give it gas, occasionally it sounds as though it wants to fire on all cylinders, but just won't. Also, there is a stronger smell of fuel when the motor dies or is shut off. I've pulled plug wires on the right side of the motor when it does this and there is no chage in the the way it runs.

    I haven't tackled distributor/electrical as of yet. I'm pretty much learning as I go and my service manual really isn't being too much help here. Any ideas as to whats going on? Other than 'Jeep Gremlins' why would it run OK one time and not the next?
     
  2. Sep 24, 2004
    Hawkes

    Hawkes Member

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    I'm interested in an answer as well. Mine does the same thing. I cleaned the points and changed a visibly bad plug wire and it seemed better but not always. Drivers side exhaust is smooth, pass side is rough. When (and if) you get on the gas it usually smooths out. I've got the TH 400 and it wants to bog down when you put it in gear.

    Paul
     
  3. Sep 24, 2004
    timgr

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    First I'd do a compression check. Then, plug wires that look ok but are old will often cause misfiring. The humidity will change this a lot. If the plug wires are more than a few years old, I would replace them. Carbon tracking in the distrbutor cap or on the rotor will cause a misfire too.

    Then, just go down the list. Fuel, spark, timing, compression.
     
  4. Sep 24, 2004
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Take a look at the distibutor cap and rotor. is the cap securely fastened on BOTH sides?

    Also, you may wish to pull the top of the ol' rochester 2G carb to be sure that there isn't some crud in the bowl that is stopping the fuel flow to one side of the engine.

    You may want to try a trick an old racer friend taught me a long time ago: When trying to diagnose a problem like this, when the engine starts to miss, let it run like that a while and then shut it down and pull the plugs. Check to see which ones are fuel-wet, and use this as a clue to try to solve what is happening in the engine. if it is only one or two plugs, it may very well be the plug wires or a stuck valve, etc. One whole cylinder bank would point to a fuel flooding or non-ignition on that side. Get the picture?

    A good, healthy engine should have plugs whose tips are charcoal-grey in color, and the porcelain of the tip should be the color of a brown egg-shell. Black, sooty plugs indicate a poor combustion or over-rich condition, and white, flaky ash-encrusted plugs are too hot or too lean.

    Hope this helps. ;)
     
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