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Removing Paint But Leave Patina?

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by mickeykelley, Dec 5, 2016.

  1. Dec 5, 2016
    mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

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    What is the best method for removing PO attempt at painting on these dash bolts without removing the natural gray/dull silver patina? His approach was obviously just squirt some on and move on, as he got it on bolts, wires, guages, steering wheel, you name it. I was thinking brake fluid, but I thought I pick the brains here first for their experience. See the red dash bolts.....
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    How did the latches come from the factory? Galvanized? And what is the best thing to do as far restoration? Mine have some rust and do not operate smoothly.
     
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    Focker

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    mickeykelley

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    I've done the wire wheel on stuff and it definately gets the patina. I think the old 'donkey dick' gas can sprouts I have were also cadmium plated. Ones is pretty rusted and doesn't flex very well. I may experiment with it.
     
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    Glenn

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    I would think that paint stripper would work wonders pretty quickly. Remove them as mentioned and apply it or soak the heads of the bolts in it?
     
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    timgr

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    Yep. Try to find the liquid kind rather than the gel, and immerse them. If it's spray can paint, it may even come off with a soak in lacquer thinner, or even xylene. Goof-off (or any graffiti remover) is also effective.

    The latches are bright plated, but I don't know whether it's cad or zinc. Cadmium is not common today mostly due to environmental and health issues, but on an old car it's hard to predict.
     
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    What I call "Patina" is the well-worn look that antique objects aquire with age and use.

    Are you trying to preserve that, or return things to their 'as new' look?
     
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    mickeykelley

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    Looking for somewhere I between. But if I can't get factory look with some reasonable aging, the I prefer factory new over the crappy red overspray, rust, etc.
     
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    I would stay away from the wire wheel for cleaning the bolt heads. That will leave paint in the crevices, and buff off the original plating. Aerosol paint stripper would work quite well, and is quick and easy, provided you remove the bolts from the dash. I usually poke a series of holes in a piece of cardboard to hold the bolts in place for spraying with stripper. A few minutes usually does it, and a stiff scrub brush (with lots of rinse water) will get the nooks and crannies clean.
    Please keep those original recessed head bolts as too many old Jeeps have lost these to "upgrades" to stainless.
    I think the original latches were lightly zinc plated, as were the bolts. This also may be an early cad plating that is not found today, as modern cad has a gold color.
    The Tuxedo Park Jeeps had both the bolts and latches chrome plated, and the chrome latches were optional from the dealer back in the day. Unfortunately, "factory new" today means inferior made in China junk, so keep your originals by all means.
    -Donny
     
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    Focker

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    I like the wire wheel because the "Patina" comes right back. If you're dead set on keeping the plating...Jasco brand paint stripper or oven cleaner (from the dollar store).
     
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    I use oven cleaner a lot - but it will eat zinc or aluminum alloys, etc. Maybe cadmium too?
     
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    timgr

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    I suspect the plating on those bolts will have failed to the same degree that the plating on the windshield catch bolts has failed.

    That's a hex head bolt (screw) with a captured washer. I looked at some online resources, and I don't see many options for replacement. Likely the part that would look most like the originals would be a flanged hex head screw (bolt).
     
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