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rear PTO

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by dunl, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. Aug 11, 2008
    dunl

    dunl Member

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    My 1956 CJ3B has a rear PTO unit. I've included a link to pictures. There's nothing else, just the rear PTO, one shaft.

    http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8Tbt3LZoxHA&notag=1

    My conundrum? What do I do with it? What CAN I do with it? What all do I NEED to be able to do something with it (besides the rear drivehaft for it)? What is REASONABLE to be able to do with it?

    Thanks. :)
     
  2. Aug 11, 2008
    sammy

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    Unless you have the rear gear box, you just have the control box. That supplys power from your transfer case to a shaft to the rear gear box. Some had pulleys to run generators, attached to the gear box. Unless you have the drive shaft and gear box on the rear there's not much you can do with it.
    When you do have it you can run it like a small tractor.

    PS you're missing a parking brake drum, unless you knew that...
     
  3. Aug 11, 2008
    dunl

    dunl Member

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    Yup. Knew that. :(

    How hard is it to source the rest of it?

    Thanks. :)
     
  4. Aug 11, 2008
    sammy

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    The rear gear boxes pop up once in a while for around $250US and the shafts for $150US. I plan to have one made for myself instead of buying one
     
  5. Aug 11, 2008
    Mcruff

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    You could mount a pump or compressor under the floor and run it. I have the same PTO unit and plan on hooking up a compressor and having onboard air, just a little different than other people. You could also rig up an ice cream maker like the guy on youtube did. There are lot of things you can do, you just have to be creative and fab a little stuff.
     
  6. Aug 11, 2008
    dunl

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    Got any plans or more infomation on the compressor? That sounds like a neat idea.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2008
    DanStew

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    I am in the same boat, i have the PTO and nothing else. THe ice cream shurn is the best i have seen :) I am keeping mine on the shelf until i find a rear gear box to run, and what will i run? Heck if i know, but it is cool ot have it hooked up :)
     
  8. Aug 11, 2008
    windyhill

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    X2 I was thinking of the same thing, possably using a york ac compressor. didn't get much farther then that yet.
     
  9. Aug 11, 2008
    franklin

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    I ended up building my own 'driveshaft' to the rear of the jeep from the output of the PTO on the t/c to drive the ice cream maker. I thought the factory Jeep drive shaft and gearbox were cost prohibitive. In hind-sight, the overall cost wasn't exactly that different, but I had more flexibility in making my own.

    At the following link there are some pictures of what the home-made drive shaft looks like (see the bottom of the post at this link):
    http://www.mijc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1602

    Even for driving you air compressor, you will need to fab a mount to the round bolt flange. I found that a hole saw was just the right size (but I can't recall the diameter right now) to cut a 1/4" thick steel plate to fit into the recess of the PTO output flange. I kept the inside part of the hole saw cutoff. Of course, I had to bore the four 3/8" bolt holes as well.
     
  10. Aug 11, 2008
    jeep2003

    jeep2003 Well-Known Member

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    Would it be insane to try and run a drive shaft back to a bantam trailer? Yes i beleive it would. In anycase your pto is worth about 150$ if you were to ebay it
     
  11. Aug 12, 2008
    gasman

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    I have the whole set up PTO Shaft gearbox and saw . anyone interested ?
     
  12. Aug 12, 2008
    dunl

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    Someone closer might be.....shipping would kill me.
     
  13. Aug 12, 2008
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    The complete PTO setups go for $$$ on EBay, accessories like the saws are in demand by the folks who are in the "Farm Jeep" sub-culture. (Isn't that Great- We have "Sub-Cultures"!)
    If you have the engine governor ($$$!!!) to go with the setup you've probably got enough value in the parts to buy yourself another Jeep :)

    H.
     
  14. Aug 12, 2008
    timgr

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    JMO - unless I had a need for rear-mounted farm equipment (I don't), I'd remove the PTO parts and eBay them.
     
  15. Aug 16, 2008
    windyhill

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    Don't annoy the "big guys" by posting adds here, just post an add in the classifieds section, I've always had great luck there!:beer:
     
  16. Aug 20, 2008
    lhfarm

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    You bet there is a "Farm Jeep" sub-culture. Stop by http://www.farmjeep.com and check out the history/accessories sections. We are behind on updating are restoration/use pages, but there is still a lot of fun info. I use the '47 every weekend on our now non-working farm.

    Barry
     
  17. Feb 10, 2010
    givemethewillys

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    I know this is a fairly old thread but how feasible is it really to use one of these Jeeps for everyday farm chores? I have a rear PTO that ends at the shaft (no rear gearbox). I was thinking of trying to make a bucket of some sort on the front using a plow setup, and finding a love or newgren 3 point hitch for implements. I'd like to use the jeep to grade my driveway with a box blade and use the bucket to move heavy stuff around the homestead.
    Am I nuts? Should I just go buy a tractor? I'm really intrigued by this farm Jeep subculture
     
  18. Feb 10, 2010
    mdbeck1

    mdbeck1 55 Willys CJ5

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    I too would like to use mine for some light "farm property" type work. Mainly for setting up deer feed plots and stuff like that. I've watched EBay for the past two or three years for a Newgren 3 point hitch and I don't remember finding anything but an occassional random part. There was someone on the forum here that built a 3-point but I think that he has since sold the jeep.
     
  19. Feb 10, 2010
    duffer

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    Buy the tractor!!!!! You just about have to have a 3 point hitch to effectively use a box blade or most of the other small implements-most of which are set up for 3 point. When I was a kid-6 decades back, we used a 2A for raking hay but the long turning radius (compared to a tractor) made it inefficient even for this light work. The loader would also work much better on the tractor and would be capable of lifting far more weight.

    As for the air compressor, it would be reasonably easy to mount, but I think the under-hood conventional arrangement is much better. A whole lot less dirt, minimal problems with the air intake, and well out of the way on the rocks.

    About the only thing I can think of that might be useful would be a rear mounted PTO winch. Even a buzz saw works better with a tractor.
     
  20. Feb 10, 2010
    james holden

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    gasman
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