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Original Rear View Mirror On 58

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by mickeykelley, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. Nov 25, 2016
    Glenn

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    Interesting, the mount in Pete's pictures and the one referenced above them appear to be the same but the mirror shapes are only similar.
     
  2. Nov 26, 2016
    mickeykelley

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    So in comparing your picture to my windshield, where you have a bolt holding the mirror bracket, I have the end of the bolt coming through from the outside which is holding the hood lock bracket for when the hood is raised. Both of those bolts go from the outside to the in and there is not enough thread left to attach that mirror bracket, let alone get a nut on. So how is your hood latch attached? Does that mirror bracket bolt show through on the outside?

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  3. Nov 26, 2016
    Beach66Bum

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    The hood latch bolts are separate from the rear view mirror bracket. Only pic I have right now (on holidays ) is the front windshield but you can see the hood latch bolts, then to the side the mirror bolts.
     
  4. Nov 26, 2016
    PeteL

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    I'll check it out further, when I get back over to the barn again.
     
  5. Nov 26, 2016
    Keys5a

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    BeachBum's photo shows what I was trying to describe what was original on my '64 Tux. My '59 was the same too.
    -Donny
     
  6. Nov 27, 2016
    PeteL

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    Okay.

    The left-side bolt goes through the mirror and the hood latch with a nut on the outside.
    Right-side bolt (shorter) is threaded into the reinforcement plate from the outside, holding only the latch.


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  7. Nov 27, 2016
    mickeykelley

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    So I can see this makes some sense I guess. Seems like the factory would have just ran a little longer bolt from the outside instead of flipping it. That way a mirror could be replaced without affecting the hood latch. But who knows. PeteL yours is a one owner meaning you bought it back in the 50's?
     
  8. Dec 1, 2016
    PeteL

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    Meaning I bought it about 2002 from the lady who bought it new. But I've known both the lady and the Jeep its entire life.
     
  9. Dec 1, 2016
    mickeykelley

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    PeteL, pretty neat history.

    By the way, about what is the width of the mirror? The Willys Jeep Parts is saying its 8 1/2 wide (the pic posted above). I'm guessing your looks like maybe 6.
     
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  10. Dec 3, 2016
    PeteL

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    Yeah, about six inches. I think it is the same part as a CJ3B "two hole" type.
    Also used on militarys but with tinted glass, I'm told.
     
  11. Dec 7, 2016
    Uncle Vin

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    mickeykelley

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    Sounds pretty definitive to me.
     
  13. Dec 7, 2016
    Uncle Vin

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    From the horse's mouth, so-to-speak. This could be sticky-worthy. Just sayin'.
     
  14. Dec 7, 2016
    PeteL

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    Yeah, except that the bolting specs do not match the reality of my jeep's actual installation.
     
  15. Dec 7, 2016
    Keys5a

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    Those mounting specs are spot-on for my '64 Tux windshield frame. That is the mirror my old '59 had, and the Tux had a chrome version, right down to the round head slotted screws.
    Now for the big question, Uncle Vin, where did you get that mirror, and are any more available?
    -Donny
     
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  16. Dec 8, 2016
    Uncle Vin

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    That's not my mirror. I had researched this issue extensively years ago. I believe I found the answer on the CJ2A Page. Those mirrors do come up from time-to-time on eBay. A used one is fine. Just bead blast it, paint it or powdercoat it, and have the mirror changed at a glass shop.
     
  17. Dec 8, 2016
    Glenn

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    Judging by the date I believe we can assume we know the reason for this. ;)

    It would be nice to know when that part number for the kit became current. Does it match the date on the instructions?

    FWIW that footman loop should be attached to the windshield where your mirror is now. That is for tying the windshield down with a strap to the footman loop on the hood.
     
  18. Dec 8, 2016
    PeteL

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    I dunno. Doesn't it look the same as mine? (pic in post #19)

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  19. Dec 8, 2016
    Glenn

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    Well, then mine just might be wrong. :oops: Ya just never know what some po did with these old Jeeps.
     
  20. Dec 8, 2016
    PeteL

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    No "right" or "wrong," just Jeeps with different histories. Each one has story to tell. :)
     

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