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Need diagrams...

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by tobyw, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. Aug 29, 2005
    tobyw

    tobyw Member

    Richland, WA
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    I basically need to replace EVERY part associated with the clutch and brake pedal linkage/assemblies... I have found a decent diagram for the clutch setup, and a nice OMIX-ADA "bellcrank kit" that appears to include everything except the clutch pedal and the clutch return spring. The brake assembly, however, is not so clear. Every diagram I can find seems to be for the later CJ's with hanging pedals, which obviously won't match up too well. Anyone got a diagram with part numbers/descriptions for the brake assembly? I know I need the cross tube that holds the pedals, the bracket that holds said tube, and any/all associated springs/washers/felt/etc. etc. that are involved. Thanks in advance!!
     
    tobyw, Aug 29, 2005
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  2. Aug 30, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    Hermosa, SD
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    no part numbers, but here is the Jeep parts diagram
    even though for CJ5, the diagram is basically the same
     
    jpflat2a, Aug 30, 2005
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  3. Aug 30, 2005
    tobyw

    tobyw Member

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    Thanks!!!!!!!
     
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  4. Sep 20, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Jim, great pic. This happened to by my "today" project. Problem is that I'm getting bummer-esque binding with the clutch rod-cam (5.160-2) and the MC pushrod (8.156-2). Not much, but enough that pushing the clutch pedal sometimes simultaneously pushes the brake because the MC pushrod notch sticker-outer on the brake pedal contacts the clutch cam.
    Any tips? Anyone else deal with this?
     
    Hippo393, Sep 20, 2005
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  5. Sep 20, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    also, shouldn't there be a large washer and a small tapered spring somewhere between the pedal pad and the next joint in the pic? (like where 8.172 is)
     
    Hippo393, Sep 20, 2005
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  6. Sep 20, 2005
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

    NorthWest Indiana
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    mine has the washer, unsure about the spring. sounds like the shaft and/or pedals are worn (most likely lack of grease).
     
    66cj5, Sep 20, 2005
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  7. Sep 20, 2005
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Hippo - check the angle and slack in the rod going into 5.160-2 - you may need to measure the distance of the 'ear' on the 5.160-2 shaft. I had one that was 1/8" closer on the brake side that caused the binding your talking about.

    A little blue flame work in a vice tweeked it over until I found one that had a 'better' distance there.
     
    Warloch, Sep 20, 2005
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  8. Sep 21, 2005
    etu

    etu Member

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    Hippo,
    I had the same problem - when pusing the clutch the brake pedal would move. Nothing worn excessively, just too tight from old hard grease. I removed the grease fittings dug out what I could and then used PB Blaster and compressed air to force it through all the mating parts. Worked it until it freed up and then installed the fittings and lubed with correct grease. Works fine.
     
    etu, Sep 21, 2005
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