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Muzikp's Sometimes Driveable Build

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Muzikp, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. Apr 28, 2020
    fhoehle

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    I've managed to bend a number of IH Scout tie rods, right where they dip down, over the years. Get it kinda wedged up in rocks on the left side. Have someone horse on the steering wheel to the left and watch the tie rod for bending. If it's not flexing, I would guess you will be fine. Just bring a heavy ratchet strap and a hammer to straighten it out if you do bend it. Just my thoughts.
     
  2. Apr 28, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

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    This really got me curious, so I had to check a scrap piece. There’s no foolproof way to check for sure without an acid test, but I don’t think it’s chromoly. It drills easily, where chromoly doesn’t. It is beefy though.

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  3. Apr 28, 2020
    Muzikp

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    Thanks for the info, that Varg rod is definitely more beefy than mine. This has me concerned a bit, I'll see if I can find a way to test on it a bit and see if anything flexes. I may have to make another tie-rod and flip it back down where it will get bent by a rock :lol:. Or just strap it under the hood or somewhere and bring it with me.
     
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  4. Apr 28, 2020
    Muzikp

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    In other news... all shocks unhooked and I confirmed none of them were restricting travel (thanks Jim).

    You can see I'm hanging the rear tire here. I can't get it on the ground but this was enough flex to show me where I need to adjust bump stops.

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    Rear bump stop is 2" from axle but I have an inch of fenderwell clearance left so going to lower those an inch.

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    Front is 2" from axle to bump.

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    I've decided to lower the front bump stops exactly 2" and the rear 1". This will leave me with slight rubbing in the rear but it will be light, hoping not to have to trim anything. I'm sure trail flex will push me into sheet metal some but should be tolerable.

    I'm happy to keep my low center of gravity (y)
     
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  5. Apr 28, 2020
    jzeber

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    I have never been able to get mine to flex enough to hit the front fenders but I certainly have on the trail many times!
     
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  6. Apr 28, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

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    Looking good James!!!! Lowering the bump stops is easy and a keeps body metal happy.:beer::bananatool:
     
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  7. Apr 28, 2020
    Muzikp

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    Complete with speed holes and added lightness

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    Will probably add captured nuts to bump stop side and then debur, degrease and paint. Maybe add a bit more lightness.
     
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  8. May 1, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

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    Just a thought on your tie rod...
    If there’s noticeable flex, you could try taking it off and tracing its bend onto a sheet of ~3/16” plate (extend into the straight section a few inches). Cut two of them out and stitch-weld that onto the tie rod. It would give more support where it needs it.
     
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  9. May 1, 2020
    Muzikp

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    Finally worked on something fun that wasn't so darn hard like most of the other stuff this @#%&* Jeep

    Hand throttle. Started with a bicycle brake lever and cable off one of the kids old bikes that doesn't get used.

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    I had several holes in the firewall to choose from and this one was in the perfect spot and perfect size.

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    I used a barrel adjuster at the firewall so I could put a nut on the back side to hold it all in place.

    I drilled out a bushing and then use my tapered reamer on it. I cut a slot in a piece of pvc and the bushing fit nicely inside.

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    Just barely clears the headlight switch in granny low.

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    I fits really snug but I can still rotate it around if I need to. That was easy and fun and it works good (y)
     
  10. May 1, 2020
    givemethewillys

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    pillows? You reach it with your hand on the shifter? Looks great, I was just curious because it looks awful far away
     
  11. May 1, 2020
    Muzikp

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    You mean far away when it's in granny low or far away from gear shift? The pic makes it look like you would need a huge hand but it's easy to operate, no different reach than using brakes on a bike. It is a little far away in granny gear but not much I can do about that. I thought about mounting it to my center console but all the ones I've seen are like mine so I went with it :shrug:
     
  12. May 1, 2020
    givemethewillys

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    Huge hand, it looks unreachable from the standard "palm on the shift knob" position.

    Granny low, just lean forward and "concentrate " haha
     
  13. May 2, 2020
    scott milliner

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    I went through the process, except I didn't do anything to the rear. I do however have slight rubbing in the rear, but not enough to do anything about it.

    I have a few good YJ Spring flex pictures if you like to see them. I can get 33" tires to flex below the body line.
     
  14. May 2, 2020
    Muzikp

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    Of course we want to see them. Part of my rubbing issue is my wide track axles, the tires don't stuff up under the lip of the fenders.
     
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  15. May 2, 2020
    scott milliner

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    Muzikp

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    ok I'm impressed. Nice that your tires fit inside the lip of the fenders (y)
     
  17. May 2, 2020
    scott milliner

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    If I didn't have lockers I wouldn't have gotten up this trail.
     
  18. May 2, 2020
    Jw60

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    Are those stock YJ Or lift springs (OME?)

    I was thinking the same. my 32's on stock axles with 16" wheels would rub the sides of the bed. With 1" extra on each side (not legal in all states) the same tires get more travel before hitting the bed. Maybe you can embrace the axle droop so it won't lift a wheel as often without lifting the body.
     
  19. May 3, 2020
    Muzikp

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    Yeh I can barely reach it with my hand on the knob, but I didn't think I would like operating it like that with one finger. It's pretty easy with hand on shift cane and operate throttle with 2 or 3 fingers. Maybe after I use it more I'll change my mind.
     
  20. May 8, 2020
    FinoCJ

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    sorry James...just saw this...I run bds 2.5 lift with 1/2 longer shackle - no body lift. The only rubbing I get is the rear tires on the inner fenderwell. But I only run 33x10.5 and they tuck in the fender pretty well. Somebody mentioned this I think, but make sure you are getting good droop on the axle as well - for one side to stuff, the other droops equally. Droop seems to require shackle movement so make sure the are aligned/oriented properly. In other words, under normal parked on flat pavement conditions, the bottom end of shackle needs to point away from the axle....too vertical of a shackle will kill droop. I would like just a bit more front fender clearance in a perfect world, but it hasn't been a problem yet. Its hard to add body lift with through the floor pedals.
     
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