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I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modifications

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by djljeep, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. Sep 13, 2012
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    Looking good, man. Better hurry!
     
  2. Sep 13, 2012
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    I'm gonna try to get it running for Jamboree. Transmission and power steering going in friday and saturday and I'm going to patch the tub together enough to use, with the intent to remove it after and fix it right. I also need windshield glass, wiring, and another rattle can paint job.
     
  3. Sep 24, 2012
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    Yeahhhhh so it won't be done for this weekend.... Had to put some work into the trails and the other jeep instead

    good news is, I have the accessories figured out and almost installed, Power steering Gear is in, and we got the T18 and D20 in. New realistic goal is to be done ish by spring so I can demonstrate my capstone project in it.
     
  4. Sep 26, 2012
    fhoehle

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    Sandblast it when done, then take and have it galvanized. Most places will only charge you a 250.00 min charge. Then it is protected inside and out.
     
  5. Sep 26, 2012
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    I'll keep that in mind when I do my cj5, but this one is already painted and being assembled. I am going the fluid film route with this one. Can you get a tub galvi'd cheaply?

    One of the next three projects will be my yellow 73' and I think I am going to strap that frame on the top and bottom. I will also have more money on hand then. Right now I am poor college kid.
    The next couple of projects after this one are my 73' getting rebuild, think resto-mod; my 93 zj is going to get a sleeved unibody leafs in the back and some other crap; and my dads tj either needs some major work or needs to be retired and replaced with another TJ or YJ.
     
  6. Dec 8, 2012
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    So in other news I actually worked on it some.

    Here is the picture from my ultra-safe tub removal process.
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    and a month or so later, back on its new frame.
    [​IMG]
    It isn't lined up or anything, I just wanted to get it back inside before snowfall. Floor replacement begins after winter break starts. in two weeks.

    So as of right now.
    Frame is done, Brake lines are all in (except the new wheel cylinders basically), power Steering is in except for the lines (thanks Sterclan), T18 with a fresher D20 that I got really cheap are in.

    So the next phase is new floor and some tub repairs, A small bit of creative welding/brazing on the rear bumper so I can use it as an air tank, and A complete Re-wire.

    After that, toss the new seats in, weld up the front bumper and winch, fab up some fenders, Toss the front locker in, and ship it down to a friend for the cage if I have time.
    I'll get more pictures of some of my creative moments when I fix my camera instead of my crappy cell phone.
     
  7. Dec 9, 2012
    srblock78

    srblock78 New Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pWUc_EaQw

    This may give you some ideas on how to coat the inside of your frame. I believe I bought this product from the local NAPA store. I believe its made by Martin Senour paints though. I tried to find where to buy online without any luck, and don't remember the cost, but the folks at NAPA should be able to give more info.
     
  8. Dec 9, 2012
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    Well I suppose the next thing I need help and advice with is how to do the floors. I am thinking about using a smaller box tubing for the supports and go from there. What is the typical floor pan thickness? Stock is not a concern here.
     
  9. Dec 9, 2012
    BrettM0352

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    stock is 18 gauge, repros will be as well. If you were making your own (which wouldnt be too difficult) it would be easy to go with 16 gauge, but with the hat channels supporting the load I don't see much of an advantage.
     
  10. Jan 7, 2013
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    ok so I was looking at it last night, and I started drafting up some plans for my floor supports. I will not be using stock Hat channels, and I am starting from effective scratch. Anybody have pictures of a less than stock floor supports? I have a couple Ideas, but I'd like some input as well. I am planning on using 1X1X~11 Ga.-1/8th inch something like that.
     
  11. Jan 9, 2013
    CoolSpot

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    Good job! and Great thread...

    I'm working on my 1974 cj5 Frame and was looking for pictures :) Thanks
     
  12. Mar 14, 2013
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    I need a dimension from somewhere on the firewall to somewhere on the front of the frame. Keep in mind that I have no fenders, hood, or grille on it ATM. I do have a 258 mounted in it though.

    I am trying to place my tub on the frame to build my new floor supports, but things are not lining up right. With the previously fabricated "custom" rear mounts on the rear cross member lined up the way they were before, I have like 3.5 inches between the firewall and the valve cover and I know that's not right. I checked dimensions against my 73, but it's been pretty molested, so I don't trust the numbers. So I'm looking to dimension from the front of the jeep instead of the back.




    So as an update, I am working on the front floor this week. Progress has not been impressive and working on the tub has been pretty demoralizing. I have had to replace both rockers and I really should be replacing more. I should of went after a new tub but I just have too much attachment to this one. Atleast I don't care about making it historically accurate. We picked up a full sheet of 16 gauge to build the floors and wheel wells. I know that's heavy, but so is the rest of the jeep. As soon as I have the front floor in I may skip the rear floor to get the engine wired and running just in case, because I need this rig running for Jamboree this year.

    I've also been slowed because I blew the head gasket in my wj two weeks ago and its getting a new engine this week.
     
  13. Jun 1, 2013
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    So long time no update. The whole graduation thing slowed things down...

    Anyway other than the trans tunnel the front floor is in, just needs finish welding that I will do when I pull it back off. Started turning over the motor, can't get the timing close enough to for it to start, but I can get flames out the exhaust, so I should be good to go. Gonna start messing the chassis again tightening things up and get ready to rebuild the rear floor. We are planning to suck the wheel wells in to the frame rail, which should be cool. I'm also going to order an EZ-wire harness in the interest of time and money. still trying to decide between 12 and 21 circuits. I might post pictures later, but most of them are crappy phone pictures taken at night in a dim garage.

    I do have this though...
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Feb 13, 2014
    djljeep

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    So I have ignored this thread long enough. The whole driving an hour back and forth to work thing has hampered productivity, but I just got the shop cleaned the other day and i've been ordering in some parts.
    I have made little progress on the tub, mostly patching in the rear quarter panels.
    I am definelty going to use my grand Cherokee seats because, of course I am.
    I have the EZ-wire kit and just got the rest of my dash parts today.
    I am setting the fuse box for the harness in the dash behind the grab bar, because frankly there was a nasty hole there anyway and I wanted to keep as much of the harness attached to the dash as possible to make screwing with it in the future easier. I will post pictures tonight after I clean up the table with the dash and get going on the wiring.
     
  15. Feb 16, 2014
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    Re: I'm finally getting to it... 72 CJ5 frame boxing and other nonsensical modificati

    So progress pictures.
    As she sits.
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    crappy reinforcement welding.
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    front floor still pending center tunnel
    [​IMG]
    rebuilt original spedometer (new fuel gauge and different glass, plus roughly frenched in fuse box (I'm planning on adding some trim to make it look nicer)
    [​IMG]

    Power and ignition circuits done on the dash side. I just spliced the Spartan connector in and will add the headlight circuits tomorrow.
    [​IMG]

    Also found this for a wiring diagram: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/re...DIAGRAMS/WIRING-DIAGRAMS/_/P-0900c1528004b198
    Little easier to follow than the factory schematic.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2014
  16. Feb 16, 2014
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    All done wiring the dash except for the wipers and the winch controller, and I'll do those later when It's in the jeep. I wish it had come out neater, but I don't think it's bad for two nights sitting on the radiant heated floor...

    I reused the spartan connector and the factory bulb holders for the speedometer, so had I not had all those splices it may have come out nicer. All connections were crimped and shrink wrapped. I was going to solder but decided not to after being told about solder connections tending to fail in vibration prone environments like race cars and aerospace. I separated out and reorganized the EZ-Wire harness to give myself an engine harness, a headlight harness, and a rear harness. The only circuit I removed was the power antenna circuit. I rolled up the tach and temp sender wires for future use and spares, as well as the radio constant power for use with my CB/Marine band radios.

    I've got a couple more hours of welding and grinding the reinforcement panels in the rear of the tub before I can frame in the rear floor. I'm hoping once I get the rear floor in and the tub re-painted I can start rolling into assembly mode.
    [​IMG]
     

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