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Hoisting A F134

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by kenb, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Apr 17, 2019
    kenb

    kenb Member

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    So as discussed in another thread I have a rusted out Jeep that I need to remove the engine from. IMG-20190413-WA0019.jpg
    The frame is mostly gone and the engine has taken a list much like a sinking ship. My plan is to cut the body off to hopefully expose more of the engine. The question is where to lift from. The trans and transfer case are still in place. I'm hoping to also expose them with the body removal. I think I want to separate the transmission and transfer case before I lift the engine away. However I think I should get some support on the engine first because I don't know to what extent it is being supported by the transmission.
    From what I gather the standard lift point is the head bolts. I see the M38A1 lift units for sale but would prefer to avoid spending $75. Has anyone fabricated something themselves for this purpose?
     
  2. Apr 17, 2019
    termin8ed

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    Headbolt thru a chain. Big washers if needed
     
  3. Apr 17, 2019
    kenb

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    So just back the head bolts out and put them directly through chain loops? Do you need to get longer bolts to accomplish that?
     
  4. Apr 17, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Just went through this (again :(), normally I just loop a bunch of rope under it, this time I did chain under the headbolts.

    [​IMG]

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  5. Apr 17, 2019
    kenb

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    Thanks for the photos. Do you have a photo handy of exactly which bolts you used?
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Front passenger side (holds the oil filer mount) back driver side (next to head oil line).
     
  7. Apr 17, 2019
    Jrobz23

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    I create a cradle with chains like in Howard's first pic. There are nice areas in front and behind the oil pan where the chain rests naturally. Just make sure your' decently balanced.
     
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  8. Apr 17, 2019
    GeoffreyL

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    I just put a chain under heabolts. choose two on opposite corners and go for it.
     
  9. Apr 17, 2019
    windyhill

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    sawzall down the fenders at the body, and cut the body mount under the grill and remove. That will give you more room fast. usually not that many body mounts holding, cut them, unbolt the steering box and pull the body off, watch your shift levers.
     
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  10. Apr 18, 2019
    Rick Whitson

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    Ken I have a bracket to pick the motor, it requires taking the carb and exhaust manifold off first. It bolts to the carb base and the middle exhaust studs. You can borrow it if you want to. Rick 734 776 7659
     
  11. Apr 19, 2019
    kenb

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    OK, one more question for the moment. Once I get the engine out, what do I set it down on? Can it rest on the oil pan? Blocks of wood under the motor mounts?
    Forgive the simplicity of the question but the only engines I've worked with previously were horizontally opposed air cooled. They are very straightforward in this regard.
     
  12. Apr 19, 2019
    73 cj5

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    Never had a problem with setting one on the oil pan
     
  13. Apr 19, 2019
    Jw60

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    I pulled everything off the front and chained on to the ears, and bellhousing. I would have gone higher on the engine but the hoist was topped out trying to get over the frame.

    [​IMG]Pulling F-134
     
  14. Apr 20, 2019
    47v6

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    Do I really see a turbo....
     
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  15. Apr 20, 2019
    Jrobz23

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    You really do.

    Jw60, if you still have it, snap a pic of that manifold.
     
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  16. Apr 20, 2019
    kenb

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    I got the engine extracted today. Ended up using a chain and two cylinder head bolts. Thanks everyone for the tips.
     
  17. Apr 27, 2019
    tripilio

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    Do you have to re-torque those bolts after that or just "tight and a little bit more " would do it?
     
  18. Apr 27, 2019
    kenb

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    I'm planning to torque the bolts before I start it. I used longer bolts so the amount inside the head is the same as without the lift brackets. I may just leave the brackets in place.
     
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