First Jeep build! Here we go...

That's what I was thinking, extend the frame horns and move the box forward.

 

It will be really tricky for me to extende the front after mounting my outriggers and mounts. The outriggers hug the sides and bottom of the frame rail so I would almost have to use a small size tube to slide inside the frame and then the normal size slide over the other end sticking out.....if that made any scence. I may just mount my box up and see where it lays. Would I just be able to cut down my pitman arm??

 

I don't think cutting the pitman arm is a very good alternative. There is a lot of stress on that part. I actually broke one on the Barrett Lake trail. Plus the shorter it is the less leverage it'll have acting on the draglink ie: harder for you to turn. I'd say mount the box and take a good look at what you've got. Maybe it'll be just fine as it is.

 

I'll give er a shot and find out. Would it be bad if the drag link is pulled back, meaning if the pitman arm hangs over the tie rod and the drag link is going back a little instead of parrelle or a tad forward? I may have to find a diferent set of springs for the front which i really dont want to do but these dang toyota springs at 47" long. 21" short and 26" long side. almost like xj springs but not as long. So if i could find a spring that is around 24" long on the long side, that would put me about perfect.

 

As long as the draglink doesn't contact the tierod when you get crossed up I don't think it'll matter too much what the angle is.

 

Alrighty. Well I guess I will bold her up and see what happens. At least she will be movable again while I save up money and parts for the power steering. I think all I got left is the brake lines, shocks, cut drive shafts to length and finish up steering and she will be ready to go again. Cant wait!!!!!! I know it aint much but Im dying to wheel with the new 79:1 ratio compared to the original 22!!!

 

Alrighty well I bolted the steering box back up and low and behold, the pitman arm is to long. The end of the pitman arm where hole is sits in the exact same spot where my tie rod needs to run accross. So, two things I have to do (besides stretching the frame) is gain at least 1.5-2" of lift in the front (mean forward rake anyways) to the the steering box up off the tie rod and may have to either shorten the pitman or try and find one that is flat liek the original but about 3 inches shorter.

 

How about a drop pitman arm installed inverted to create to lift the the draglink? Would that give enough clearance or is the box actually hitting the tie rod?

 

I believe the sector shaft is tapered so I don't think you can flip a pitman arm. Might be able to take a straight one and have it bent though.

 

Oh yeah, forgot about the taper. But I think this is a Toyota draglink. The taper is probably different than the stock Jeep part, so any pitman arm would need to be retapered. Assuming the taper is bigger than stock.

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Your right about the drag link. My steering is trail gears (trail-gear.com if you wanna check it out) high steer. Flipping it would work it it can be done as long as it dont hit my front crossmember which is kind of low. I will be adding a leaf out of my old 63" chevy's to help support and rearch the front springs a bit which will give me a little more room. My steering kit came with a pitman arm for a toyota which only has about a 1.5" of drop to it so it the splines will match up (aint that lucky so I aint counting on it) then I could flip that one. Plus ts a couple inches shorter then the stock cj one. Fully hydro is sounding great at this point haha.

 

Well Im back FINALLY!!!!!!!!! Been a rough 5 months for sure! Due to financial situations, I had to sell some stuff including my saginaw ps box so a waggy setup is how im going to have to go once the funds come back in. I was able to play with her for a little bit yesterday and this is what I came up with: The draglink is directly in the way of the pitman arm and with the tie rod connected and draglink connected, it has to be turned hard passenger to get everything to hook up. I used a hi-lift to jack the front of the jeep up to see how much more lift i will need to clear everything and looks like im going to need at least 3 inchs more for everything to clear. BUT...with the pitman arm then hanging over the top of the tie rod, im worried that even with the lift, it will hit once the driver front starts to compress. So here are a few options i was thinking about...1-lengthen and bend the ends of the tierod to push it back towards the tub 2" for the pitman to clear 2-get 3" springs for the front and pray it clears throughout the entire cycle 3-re-fabbing the front cross member and frame horns and move the ps box forward 2". Kind of stuck at the moment. The toyota drop pitman wont work, too fine of splines. i will try snapping some pictures tomorrow after work that way yall can see what im talking about.

 

ps- Feels GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDD to be back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Missed this site a little too much!

 

It's about time!

 

missed ya on the Vintage Iron run . I think you had signed up .

 

Ya I sure was signed up to go. But when i lost my job last november, i had to grab the first thing i could and with the way california is at the moment in the valley, a good job is far and few between so the funds have been limited. That along with my truck being down and a run of bad luck kept me from going......August was not a good month for me knowing that I couldn't go. How was it? Was looking for pictures and maybe some video of everyone up there...im back on track with the Cj so knock on wood......I should be done here soon.

 

was in trail ride ..............
http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?90439-Rubicon-Trail-Vintage-Iron-on-a-Vintage-Trail-II-The-Post-Mortem

 

Thanks. it was bad enough knowing I couldn't go but seeing the pictures, videos and reading the stories just makes the wound that much worse! I'll get this dang jeep up and runnin again....power steering or no power steering I dont care, she will be up and running ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Alright, so as i have stated, im having steering issues. Well i just scored a set of 3" lift springs for the front of the jeep which will level her out and gain some room for the steering links...trading straight across for my old set of 63" chevy 1/2 tons. I had an epiphany ( i hope)...what if i was to bend the tie rod inward a little? That would be PERFECT if at all possible without screwing stuff up. So basically somthing like this..............................
What ch'all think?

 

What are you trying to achieve by bending the tierod?