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Dana 27 Tie Rod Flip

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by chip biddle, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Apr 7, 2018
    OzFin

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    Search "Bilstien 5125" then look for your application.
     
  2. Apr 7, 2018
    chip biddle

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    I will look into to them, thanks.
     
  3. Apr 7, 2018
    Thean

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    I'd look at using a single body 2.0 FOX with a 5/8 shaft (or similar). What's diameter of body on your current twin tube, 2.5"+?
     
  4. Apr 9, 2018
    chip biddle

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    Yup, Its right around 2.5". I will look into the Fox shock to see what they have.

    Chip.
     
  5. Apr 9, 2018
    chip biddle

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    I finished the steering box brace this weekend, just need a little paint and it will be complete. The drag link is complete too, just need to finish the tie rod and fix the interference issue and then it will be back on the road.

    Chip.
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  6. Apr 9, 2018
    chip biddle

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    does anyone know the stoke length of the shock I would need? I have appox 3" lift between the shackles and springs. I have rough country's on there now with an ID of 650329, not much information on these on the web but I did find one place that showed 15.25" - 24.50" travel does that sound right?

    Thanks,
    Chip.
     
  7. Apr 9, 2018
    ITLKSEZ

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    I'd give some thought to going this route. At $130, it's going to be cheaper than new Fox or Bilstien shocks (that might still have an interference issue), and you get extra beef on top of it. You might have to ream your tapers a little deeper, but otherwise it's pretty straightforward.

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  8. Apr 10, 2018
    chip biddle

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    So is the jeep tie rod taper and GM taper the same but just deeper? I can see using one of these ends and the tie rod but the passenger side has a "Y" type tie rod with the drag link connector on it so I would need to have a weld on bung for this end. With this set up I think I would also have the same threads on each end causing slight adjustment difficulties.

    Chip.
     
  9. Apr 16, 2018
    chip biddle

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    Had some time this weekend to work on the tie rod flip project and ended up with this franken tie rod setup, I have the Ruff Stuff offset 1 ton tie rod (large taper) with 1 1/2" DOM stepped down to 1" DOM to standard size ford tie rod with taper insert. I have it mocked up the way I like it now and will weld everything together and finish up next weekend. I think I will still move the upper shock mounts for a little more piece of mind. Note: The Ruff Stuff offset tie rod kit is absolutely awesome deal for the money ~$129 (2 each 1 ton offset tie rods, 2 each weld in bungs and 4 foot of 1 1/2" DOM) delivered for ~$10 shipping and got it next day, I ended up only using a couple pieces of the kit but what the heck, it gave me more fabrication options to pick from.

    Chip.

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  10. Apr 16, 2018
    chip biddle

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    1 more thing worth mentioning that might help someone is a harbor freight 7/8" step drill bores a perfect 7/8" thru hole for the 1 ton taper insert, step drilling using standard drills wasn't working so good,

    Chip.
     
  11. Apr 16, 2018
    jzeber

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    Looks good. Did you have to get different inserts?
     
  12. Apr 16, 2018
    chip biddle

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    Yup, had to drill out the taper/insert I just put in and bore a 7/8" hole for the 1 ton insert. I was hoping it was the same taper and I could just ream deeper but that wasn't the case so I bought the insert with my offset tie rod kit from Ruff Stuff just encase.

    Chip.
     
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  13. Apr 16, 2018
    '74Renegade

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    How much material was left after you drilled out the taper to 7/8"?
     
  14. Apr 16, 2018
    chip biddle

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    There was more material left than I thought there was going to be, there's probably 3/8" wall left.

    Chip.
     
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  15. Apr 16, 2018
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    It looks really good. I am about to weld new shock mounts on my axle to solve the problem you just solved with the offsets.
     
  16. Apr 17, 2018
    chip biddle

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    James- I would like to see your axle shock mount setup, do you have any pictures? I was planning on moving the upper frame shock mounts on mine this weekend.

    Chip.
     
  17. Apr 17, 2018
    Muzikp

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    I haven't done it yet. My D30 has super simple shock mount brackets on the back of the axle tube near the bottom. Shown here.

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    I plan to make more of them and weld them to the front of the axle tube. I didn't want to move my frame mounted ones since I like to keep things as stock as possible wherever I can, and the inner fender is trimmed around it. I figured it would be easier and cleaner to just mount new brackets to the front of axle. :shrug:
     
  18. Apr 21, 2018
    chip biddle

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    Almost done, got everything back together today and took it for a ride, real nice upgrade, tracks dead on even hands off. the steering stabilizer did fit so I will need to make an offset install bracket, once installed it will only be better.

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  19. May 8, 2018
    chip biddle

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    Had some time to finish up on my front end this weekend, I welded up some mounts for the steering stabilizer and added some 1” wheel spacers, just need to adjust the wheel stops and then I’m back on the road.
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    Time to start on the next project,


    Chip.
     
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  20. May 8, 2018
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    I have a question. Why the steering stabilizer? A couple of weeks ago you said, "took it for a ride, real nice upgrade, tracks dead on even hands off". I have always been told, a steering stabilizer was a band aid for steering issues.
     

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