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Clutch slipping problems 1956 CJ5 Willys

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by CT, May 15, 2004.

  1. May 15, 2004
    CT

    CT Member

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    Hello wise forum. I need your help!

    I bought a jeep that has been sitting up several years. Just got her running today. 8)


    Now I noticed the clutch is slipping in second and third gear if rev the engine up. I am thinking I need a new clutch. The first thing I did was to loosen the clutch cable to allow the clutch to move closer to the flywheel. Still slips. :cry:



    I am thinking one of the following things:


    The clutch has some oil on it that is making it slip. (At least that is what I hope)

    The clutch as has been sitting so long, it has become glazed and will soften up and quite slipping.

    Or the clutch is worn out, and need a new clutch. Not really my choice. :(


    Have any of you replaced a clutch yourself? And has anyone ever sent their jeep to a repair shop for a clutch replacement? If so how much did it cost?

    From reviewing the repair manual, it appears to be a big really job if I do it myself ? How much did cost. And how many hours did it take you? Would you do it again.


    Thanks
    Cliff


    1956 CJ5 Willys
     
  2. May 16, 2004
    gte636p

    gte636p Member

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    hey cliff, from my experience (albeit little) once the oil gets on the disc it's a goner unless it gets taken care of real quick... again, little experience here. you could try and spray some brake cleaner in there while someone lets the clutch in and out for you... got someone you really trust?? also, i don't know much about the glazing but from what's happened to me when it's glazed it there until you scuff it up with some sandpaper or something... but the flywheel's supposed to be smooth..

    i hate to say what i've been told a thousand times and started doing because it's a lot harder in the long run not to... but replace any questionable parts if you can. you said you just picked it up, and it sounds like you're questioning it... might as well know you've got something good in there instead of doubting it. i got my clutch (luk) for about 150 i want to say, but it seems the more preferable clutch has been the centerforce ~270. i had mine installed in a day, along with a tranny swap that took a bit longer to get odds and ends for. replaceing the clutch isn't the funnest thing to do, but not the worst either. besides, if you want something done right you've got to do it yourself, or loose a car for a week and pay some premium labor just incase something goes wrong... or atleast that's how it is around here.

    hope it helped, i'm sure some other guys will chime in, and i'll guess i'll start the bandwagon rolling...
    you got some pics? and where ya from cliff??
     
  3. May 16, 2004
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Not that it really matters much, but are you talking F-head? You have a manual so that's good. Do you have a good area to work on it, and a floor jack? It's a pretty good bit of work for a novice, but straight forward anyway. Pilot bushing should be checked/replaced, flywheel surfaced, clutch disc and pressure plate replaced, and new throwout bearing. If you have the mechanical ability to get a sitting engine running again, then you should be able to replace a clutch. Personally I'd clean everything up good and check for leaks before pulling the tranny/t-case. At the minimum replace the input shaft seal. Check for engine leaks like the rear main seal especially. Much better to only have to pull the tranny one time.
     
  4. Jun 16, 2004
    CT

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    Thanks Guys, both of you provided some good information. Looks like the clutch is slipping a little less each time I drive it. And I really have not been able to drive it that much expect a few miles on a county road.. I am in the process of repainting it with the original Comet blue paint job.

    I bought with the engine (F-134) stuck. And just got through doing an in-frame ring job. Had I known the clutch had an issue at the time, I would have pulled the motor and taken care of it at the same time. Oh well.. Jeeps are good therapy from my day job.

    As soon as I get it on the road, I will do the brake cleaner trick on the clutch and drive it awhile. Cross your fingers and lets hope it acts right. If not the clutch is getting replaced.

    I sure do appreciate this forum. Glad it is up and running again.

    There really are some sharp folks who know jeeps!!
     
  5. Jun 16, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Hi Cliff from Ohio. :beer:

    Good sign! A doomed clutch will worsen with time, not improve.

    If it does come time to replace, I highly suggest doing it yourself. Your lifeline rests in a Factory Service Manual (FSM)--and right here--to guide you along the way. The fear going into the job is later replaced 10-fold by the satisfaction of having done it yourself. :) I've done it 3 times now in 2 years on diffo V6s. Heck if you were nearby I'd even swing by and do it for you for some :beer: & pizza. Actually you may be nearby...where do you live?
     
  6. Jun 16, 2004
    CT

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    I would gladly buy you all the beer and pizza if you were close by. However I'm in East Texas. So guess I will have to do it by myself. Thanks for the offer!
     

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