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Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Chilly, May 31, 2019.

  1. May 31, 2019
    Chilly

    Chilly Active Member 2019 Sponsor

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    Lots of creative mods have been performed to our Jeeps, such as junkyard electric cooling fans, disc brakes, axle swaps, etc. Do you guys maintain a book on deviations from stock? One can think of it as "the next guy's problem" but I will admit that when I see a Jeep for sale and spy some significant deviations I become way less interested.
     
  2. May 31, 2019
    73 cj5

    73 cj5 Destroyer of Jeeps Sponsor

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    Upgrades can be good or bad. It’s in the eyes of the beholder....
     
  3. May 31, 2019
    Chilly

    Chilly Active Member 2019 Sponsor

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    True. A seller is looking for a new beholder of his Jeep. Serving up a riddle of mysteries without records might not be helpful. Not to mention that everyone on this site except me is getting older and might not remember where all of these unoriginal parts came from.
     
  4. May 31, 2019
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    I have a complete built thread for that...ahah


    Also i dont think i ever sell the jeep :p
     
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  5. May 31, 2019
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Volvophilic

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    Up until my current build, I've just kept all of the box tops/part numbers/notes of "special" parts in that vehicle's glove box, or with a refrigerator clippy-magnet to the inside firewall.

    The one I'm working on now is going to need a spread sheet.
     
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  6. May 31, 2019
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    I started doing in the garage so i have all the part number next to the jeep

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  7. May 31, 2019
    Fly Navy

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    That is exactly how I do it, excel spread sheet. I track part numbers, compatibility, and (most depressing :() build cost.
     
  8. May 31, 2019
    PeteL

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    I keep a log on each vehicle.

    All maintenance, repairs, parts numbers, modifications, are noted with date and milage. I could never keep track otherwise.
     
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    Focker

    Focker I Hate Being Bi-Polar, It's Awesome. Staff Member Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    jeepstar

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    with the geo disk brake conversion i am undertaking on the 62, i printed out a small sheet of paper with all of the part numbers/model for the calipers, disks, pads, hoses, fittings ETC. its laminated and in the glove box for any future owners/mechanics. thats about all ive done to maintain any type of a build record. i had to figure most of the stuff out myself, why should the next owner get a free pass?

    *edit* i forgot to add a note to drill the rotor stud holes out to the appropriate size :(
     
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    '74Renegade

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    I have some notes in a composition book, I do like the spreadsheet idea. I certainly can't remember all the stuff I've changed over the years that I didn't write down.
     
  12. May 31, 2019
    timgr

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    I use a composition book.

    A spreadsheet would be a good idea, though I think the notebook allows for more flexibility for your notations. Plus my work reinforces that habit.
     
  13. May 31, 2019
    Lockman

    Lockman Since 1975..... It's not my Fault Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    I sure wish I would have got one with my rebuilt ' 75 CJ5. I just got some verbal memories from a far away family member.... Who drinks a lot ? :(
     
  14. May 31, 2019
    duffer

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    For my 3B I originally kept a large 3 ring binder with all the part numbers used, wiring diagrams, and printed applicable portions of various TSM's. Sometime in the 90's, that transitioned to the computer and I basically have a custom TSM/parts manual for it in a Word file. Currently about 30k bytes.

    A clip:
    AXLES


    Rear:


    Dana 44 (stock CJ-3B) housing, Dana Thorton Power-Lok (19 spline), Advance Adapters full float axles (uses same bearings and seals as Dana 25 front axle), disc brakes. Wheel mounting surface (WMS) to WMS is 49 13/16”. With two 1 ¼” wheel spacers, width WMS/WMS is 52 5/16”.

    Pinion Bearings, front: BCA (Federal Mogul) 31594 (cone), 31520 (race)

    Pinion Bearings, rear: BCA (Federal Mogul) 02872 (cone), 02820 (race)

    Pinion Seal: National 5778

    Carrier Bearings:

    Cover Gasket:


    Front:


    Dana 25 (as of 11/07). Centerline of driveshaft to centerline right spring is 7.375”. WMS to WMS is 49 11/16”. Left side WMS to centerline spring is 11.5”.Right side WMS to centerline spring is 11 5/16”.


    Dana 44:


    R&P “Freedom” Jeep wide track housing. ½” wall tubes. Purchased July 2014.


    (1978 Scout): Centerline of driveshaft to centerline right spring pad is 7.500”. Centerline of driveshaft to right WMS is approximately 14.500”. WMS/WMS is 59.875”. Need to narrow unit 7 9/16” (all on left side?). Knuckle centerline upper ball joint to centerline tie rod bore is approximately 7.5”.



    AXLE HOUSING: R&P wide track CJ “Freedom”. (R&P 503-557-8911)

    Narrow track spring pad location, 5 degree caster, 5 degree up pinion angle, ½” wall tubes. Housing tube ID = 1.725”.

    KNUCKLES: Reid Racing. D440015L, SN 20; and D440015R, SN 31.

    BALL JOINTS: Moog K8194T (upper), K8195T (lower).

    SPINDLES: 8 hole IH Scout II.

    DISK BRAKE CALIPER BRACKET: IH Scout II.

    DUST SHIELDS: IH Scout II, 8 hole. Kentrol #_____

    AXLE SHAFTS: Dutchman 4340 Chrome molly, 30 spline inner, 27 spline outer, Spicer 5-760X u-joints, Axle OD at end of tube = 1.347”.

    WHEEL BEARINGS: Inner Timken LM501349/LM501310 (Set 45), outer Timken LM102949/LM102910.

    HUB WHEEL SEAL: National 442874, CR 23300, Victor 46467.

    SPINDLE NEEDLE BEARING: Torrington B2110.

    SPINDLE SHAFT SEAL: CR 19992. (Torrington B2110 + seal = National Bearing Set SBK-1).

    PINION BEARINGS & CONES: Front-02872/02820, rear-31594/31520.

    ARB CARRIER BEARINS AND CONES: LM104949/LM104912. ARB shim kit SHK009.

    ARB LOCKER: RD116, SN 13051017.

    INNER AXLE SEAL: National 40769S.

    BRAKE ROTORS: Wagner BD60458 (11.75 x 1.188”, minimum thickness 1.120”.

    BRAKE PADS: Best Brake Organic D92.

    BRAKE CALIPERS: Cardone 18-9096, Bendix 437 1 2235074; Ford H 195, Cardone 18-4095. 3.125” pistons.
     
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    rusty

    rusty Well-Known Member

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    I like to think I have every thing in a big envelop . Should all be there. I think.
     
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    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

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    I agree. I also can tell anyone what part came from where.
     
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  17. May 31, 2019
    Chilly

    Chilly Active Member 2019 Sponsor

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    Yes. Of course you can. Because you are the ONE GUY who remembers it all, and your prospective buyer is the ONE GUY who remembers everything you tell him.

    FYI, the Craigslist section is loaded with links to posts by guys who will never sell their Jeep. Or their kids...
     
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    Focker

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    Here is a sample of my notes for my brake system...

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    The MC is not a direct bolt on...It required some minor modification to the Jeep's MC mounting setup.

    Master cylinder - '76 Ford Bronco disc/drum - Raybestos MC36399 1" bore
    Brake output fitting - Napa Part #:641-3305 (front) Thread Size: 3/8"-24 x 1/2"-20
    Brake output fitting - Napa Part #:641-3306 (rear) Thread Size: 3/8"-24 x 7/16"-24

    FRONT DISCS:
    Caliper mounting brackets - '76 Chevy K20.
    Caliper - '71-'78 Chevy K10 - Oreillys Part #: 18-4045 Right
    Caliper - '71-'78 Chevy K10 - Oreillys Part #: 18-4046 Left
    Organic pads - '71-'78 Chevy K10 - Oreillys Part #: LD52
    Rotors - '77-'80 Jeep CJ - Raybestos 3550R
    Brake hoses - Napa Part #: 36761
    Banjo bolts - Napa Part #: 82698
    10 qty lug studs Dorman - Part #: 610106
    12 qty Grade 5 - 1" fine 3/8"- 24 thread bolts and lock washers


    REAR DRUMS:
    Buy rear brake parts for a '71 Wagoneer...Use 1" bore wheel cylinders with 3/8-24 Thread Size.

    11" Drums Wagoneer Backing Plate Numbers:
    Bendix - 315688 Right
    Bendix - 315687 Left

    Napa:
    Drums - Part Number: ND 4401123
    Shoes - Part Number: TS TS10A
    Hardware set - Part Number: UP 2238
     
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  19. Jun 2, 2019
    73 cj5

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    Aren't build threads build records??
     
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    Focker

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    As long as you don't use free image hosting. :whistle:
     

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