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Bought A Pile Of Cj5 Parts Today

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by kenb, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. Apr 13, 2019
    kenb

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    This came home with me today:
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    It is (was at one time?) a 1964 CJ5. Fame and body are mostly gone but there seems to be a lot of parts left.
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    The hood is actually very solid, which is good as I need that for my M38A1. The grill is also very solid. Otherwise the body is mostly rust. I think I can salvage some fittings and smaller parts. There is a windshield frame included which has a latch on the outside top. This appears to catch a footman loop on the forward part of the hood.
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    What I'm also excited about is the engine and drivetrain. The F134 engine looks intact. The clutch is stuck so I haven't been able to try and turn it over. Dipsick looks clean and there is oil in it.
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    The Jeep is equipped with a front PTO. I'm not sure what I would ever do with such a thing but it will be cool to check out.
    As I'm sure you noticed the fame is essentially gone. The near term plan is to cut apart the body and rotted frame. I'll have to get the engine on a stand and start to evaluate the drivetrain.
    I'm not sure what good parts I'll get out of it but I should be fun finding out.
     
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  2. Apr 13, 2019
    Twin2

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    bet that was a lot of fun getting on trailer
    still some good parts there
     
  3. Apr 13, 2019
    kenb

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    Seller had a tractor with long forks on the loader. Otherwise it would have been quite an adventure
     
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  4. Apr 13, 2019
    dane71

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    I would get it running and attempt to drive it around the yard, just to say that it drives :rofl:
     
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  5. Apr 14, 2019
    Rick Whitson

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    :clap:You got a heater fan control knob, and a glove box lock, if nothing else. Good Luck.
     
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  6. Apr 14, 2019
    Walt Couch

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    I noticed that too.
     
  7. Apr 14, 2019
    kenb

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    I haven't checked if the included key fits the glove box. Will have to investigate. Of note is the fact that there isn't actually a box behind the door.....
     
  8. Apr 14, 2019
    adams77

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    If you were closer I'd make you an offer on the seat brackets, rust and all!
     
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  9. Apr 14, 2019
    47v6

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    The transmission is most likely stuck because its filled with water and rusted solid and not the clutch.
     
  10. Apr 14, 2019
    kenb

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    Yes, the trans shifter boot is long gone so I'm sure there is a water problem. Hopefully there is something salvageable there.
     
  11. Apr 14, 2019
    Rick Whitson

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    It has 15" wheels, could be 4:27 axels, Ken. You can make an aluminum box real easy, a bigger box is better to store your stuff and lock it.
     
  12. Apr 14, 2019
    durk

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    Wow, I thought the floors and sheet metal on my 5 was bad that I bought back from Minnesota. The outstanding Detroit area must really salt their roads have fun with it.
     
  13. Apr 14, 2019
    Keys5a

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    That looks like an early '64; battery lid cover on the cowl, but rubber pedal covers. Does the vin tag have "Willys" or "Kaiser"? Did you get a title? Either way, save the vin tag.
    I've brought home at least a half dozen rusty CJs as bad or worse when I lived up on the NC Outer Banks. They're a treasure trove of parts! This one is suprisingly complete and original, just very rusty. I can't find those original steel wheels around here. Wish you were closer!
    If possible, save any usable parts as previously mentioned like the glove box door and heater control, and many other pieces. Great find!
    -Donny
     
  14. Apr 14, 2019
    kenb

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    Rick, I was thinking about the axle ratios based on the conversation we had previously. I think you mentioned your 4.27s came off a Tuxedo Park Jeep. The seller said he thought it was a Tuxedo Park. There were the rotting remains of a chrome bumper somewhere in the mix. I think it fell off during loading. VIN is 8305167xxx. Kaiser tag. It came with a title. I've tried the serial number tables and can't find out much.
    I'll certainly save whatever I can extract.
    Yes, we do love our salt in Michigan!
     
  15. Apr 14, 2019
    Keys5a

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    If it is a Kaiser tag, its not a Tux. A Tux vin begins 8322. There is nothing I see from a Tux; no dash cut for column shift, no chrome fittings, no badge holes in the hood. All 4 cyl Jeeps from about '63/'64 came standard with 4.27 ratio axles, optionally 5.38.
    The title and vin are saleable!
    -Donny
     
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  16. Apr 14, 2019
    tcfeet

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    kenb

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    Interesting, thanks for that info. I look forward to seeing what the axle ratio is. My dad is considering a CJ-3B build, I'm guessing a 5.38 would be preferable for that. Is there much value difference between ratios assuming a serviceable axle?
     
  18. Apr 14, 2019
    Magiccoolbus

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    "Ran when parked."
     
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  19. Apr 14, 2019
    Jrobz23

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    “Some rust”

    good find tho
     
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    Keys5a

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    Preferred axle ratios depend on what you are using the Jeep for, and what powers it. I always likes the 4.27 axles in my F134 Tux. They were low enough for my off-road, but would easily run 60 mph on the road. If you have V6 power, the 4.27's would be great. If your looking at rock crawling, 5.38s would be best. I think all CJ3B's had 5.38 gears. If things are as original as that Jeep looks, the ratio tags may still be under a diff cover bolt to easily see what's in it.
    -Donny
     

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