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Bigdaddy's Socal 1963 Tuxedo Park Resto-mod.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Bigdaddy13, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Aug 24, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    I have a lot of paint on hand usually from the other projects I work on, mostly Rustoleum enamals - So, on a whim, I decided to fog 2-3 coats of tan gloss (I can find the real name if you want) to see what it looks like.

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    I think it'll look pretty good with a set of these wrapped around them:

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    Ordered 5 of them, just in case they go out'a style (just my luck). Trying to decide what tubes to run in them. I don't hear folks talking about a preference much when I search on the topic. Maybe just grab the set that the tire shop recommends or has on hand? I was assured these particular wheels (even though they're riveted) are good-to-go, tubeless by the previous owner (a jeep guru in this area) I think I'm still deciding what I'll do.
     
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  2. Aug 24, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    Speaking about paint...can't say that the new Kaiser-willys catalog that just came in the mail, doesn't have me thinking about these choices:

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    If I were to guess, based on the tub under the dash where there looks to be some original paint peeking through and given the 1963 options, my jeep was likely a "White Cap" white Tuxedo Park.

    Offers me some more motivation about where I want this build to go, which is to potentially do a faithful restore to the wheels/tires/interior/soft top, keeping as many Tux Park parts as I can (front bumper, find some hood emblems, re-chroming of the hood and windshield hinges)

    Then maybe the jeep gets some basic body-work fixes, budget white paint, re-blacking of the windshield frame, and I call it good enough for the look/feel before I switch gears to the mechanical goals (big plans are always brewing)
     
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  3. Aug 24, 2020
    givemethewillys

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    I'd like to see it if you choose "white cap"! I'm planning on painting my jeep white, and I find that color intriguing. I like the classic creamy white

    Edit: I think I got it wrong; apparently white cap is more of a bluish tint, where glacier white has that creamy color I was thinking about. I still want to see it!!! Paint on bigdaddy!
     
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  4. Aug 31, 2020
    Keys5a

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    White Cap is a bright true white. Yes, the formula has blue in it, but the result has no blue tint when viewing the color.
    The Glacier White is a softer white, but not really creamy.
    The '64/'65 Tuxes were White Cap, then the '66/'67 Tuxes switched to Glacier White.
    -Donny
     
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  5. Sep 4, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    What a difference.

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    I already like this setup SO much more than the Jackman/wagon wheels...Just more my style. Love the retro look.

    As for ride quality - I took her for a quick jaunt around the block, and the ride seemed no less comfortable (for a JEEP). I am getting a bit of rubbing at full lock, but it's not bad, by any means. Just a bit of steering stop adjustment as others have mentioned in the past. My 9leaf/10 leaf spring packs certainly provide enough space around the tires for flexing and carrying a load, I think. MAYbe I'll consider a small shackle lift of .5" or so, but really need to keep this stock-ish height for entry/exit storage space considerations.

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  6. Sep 4, 2020
    durk

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    Good stuff, those look just like my 7.50 power kings. Though your new tires are Deestones, bias ply? Look good ;)
     
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  7. Sep 4, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    Yup, deestone d503 tubeless bias ply 7.50-16’s
     
  8. Sep 4, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

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    Don’t shoot me, but are they directional? I remember us always running them the other direction.
     
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  9. Sep 4, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    They are all directional, and they’re all clocked the way you see them. Totally a fair question because i’ve seen folks on this board and the CJ2a board run them both ways. :D :D
    I figured i’d try one way and then try the other. They don’t seem to have a directional arrow molded into them, though? So, i didnt have a “route marker”.
     
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  10. Sep 23, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    These wheels and tires are the bee's knees. Very smooth, solid driving experience. I have no idea what PSI i'm running..lol..whatever the tire shop set them at - probably WAY too high, since they have somewhat of a center bulge, but regardless, the steering input is VERY much improved over the wider tires, I'm assuming due to less tire scrub.

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  11. Sep 23, 2020
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    OK, so I have some thoughts about installing alternator to replace the generator installed currently.

    • I have a bracket from a 225 that I'm going to try to adapt to my 198 that should allow me to run a Delco unit.
    • I'm thinking about a 90-100 amp Delco setup to help with Winch loads. (Recommendations?)
    • I'm thinking at the same time of moving my accessories to a fuse block type setup off a 8-10 gauge fused lead off the battery. I did my CJ2A this way with a Blue Sea fuse block and it seemed to work well. I put the headlights, CB radio, Interior lights, Dash liights, etc. (some combined based on amp draw) on their own circuits and it really simplified my rewire job.
    Something like this:
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  12. Sep 28, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    Ok, so i know these aren’t 100% perfect but i’m pretty happy with how this came out. The vision is that they’re gussets but also tie-down points for lightweight stuff up above. Need to add the one to the other side, along with about 20-30ft more tubing and triangulation to my family cage. 9CF0BD19-F3DD-4C17-A6A6-04BD8195E825.jpeg
     
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  13. Sep 28, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    Also, took a few minutes to mock these up. They’re exactly what i was lookin’ for cost/design-wise and the build quality is top notch. These are STOUT.

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  14. Sep 28, 2020
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  16. Oct 4, 2020
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    Took a break from engine troubleshooting:

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  17. Oct 4, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    Wanted a clean surface underneath the sliders. Only have 3 of probably 6-8 total fasteners installed. And yeah, that's a legit 1/8" of bondo that I flaked off to get to the rust for repair. Need to pull them back off to refinish the panel a bit (maybe a bit of sanding and re-bondo-ing? Not sure what I'll do, but I'm going to get all my fastener holes drilled first and take measurements for some spacers I'll be putting between the floor-boards and sliders.

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  18. Oct 5, 2020
    supertrooper

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    Did you buy the tube sliders as a kit or did you bend them up yourself?
     
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  19. Oct 5, 2020
    Bigdaddy13

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    Got’em from Norcal69 as a set, all welded up.
     
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  20. Oct 7, 2020
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    Picked up some 1.5” .120 wall yesterday and a bunch of precut gussets.

    Blue tape has been great for planning my design.

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    Open to criticism on what i’m laying out, going to take my time on this part.

    Trying to balance weight, creating nodes and also providing a support structure for a canvas/sunbrella top from classicjeeptops.
     

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