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62 Cj5 In Cypress, Tx;)

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Dne007, Sep 5, 2019.

  1. Sep 6, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    EZ or painless harness many folks are happy with the 10 or 12 circuit “hot rod” type. Good value for sure.
     
  2. Sep 7, 2019
    timgr

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    You understand the original harness is fault protected, but uses a few inline fuses and a circuit breaker on the light switch instead of a fuse panel. Jeep did not sell a CJ-5 with a fuse panel until 1975. The original harness is simple enough that you could build your own. The main expense would be all the colors of wire you'd want. The hot rod harnesses (except for maybe Painless) are likely cheaper than buying the materials to make your wiring. And you should have a bunch of wire left over for your electrical junk drawer.

    What are your plans for steering column and turn signals? Seems to me the column wiring determines the most about the rest of the harness. You can buy a factory-style replacement harness from Walcks, but it will have the fault protection of the original harness - no fuse panel.
     
  3. Sep 8, 2019
    Dne007

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    Thanks Guys! Tim, we'd like turn signals, at this point, no plans on the column (the physical column, all chrome has peeled off). The old wiring harness was/is a rats nest~ I'd like new wiring especially with a fuse box, I'm not a purist, but I like to go good work. I just don't want what was on it/in it regarding wiring. I'm also interested in the alternator upgrade.

    Here are the wheels the PO had, the rims are in pretty decent shape (rust wise), I could do a jam up job on them for a possibility;)
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    Let me introduce my brother Robo~ he's my oldest brother, and his first "restoration" of anything. We work well together, I'm pretty good and have good experience on cars n stuff. Lead, follow, or get out of the way!;)
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    Obviously we removed the engine/trans~ The clutch looked recent.
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    I just happen to have an un-used engine stand, we're just going to clean the engine spik n span. Looks like the front seal may be leaking/seaping. The radiator needs recoring or replaced.
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    We have the frame on the maxjax at a comfortable level to work/play. Taking a close look at the leaf springs as the bushings are really worn, I bet it squeaked badly! Hmm, The diffs weren't leaking, so we'll probably just clean em really well. Will do a '
    brake job', wheel cyls, master.

    You guys should know I'm all ears/eyes and appreciate your knowledge. Oh, there's a jeep place not far from us (houston) handling old jeep, we're going there Thursday to see what's up.
    oh rats, got to go make dinner;)
    dne' ;)
     
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  4. Sep 8, 2019
    timgr

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    Regarding the turn signals and column, the original uses a SignalStat turn signal switch with a rubber wheel that rides against the steering wheel to cancel the signals. Pretty crude ... Alternatives might be a hot rod column from Flaming River or IDidIt. Then you could select the style of steering wheel and whether it tilts or not. Note that the original "bus wheel" is large in diameter and you kinda need that with manual Ross steering. Lots of Jeeps have been converted to a GM column (that's what Jeep used from '76 on) but usually these are both upgraded with power steering and a bigger engine.
     
  5. Sep 9, 2019
    Dne007

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    Good morning Tim and everyone;) I can put the turn signals in the back of my mind for now. It's just going to be a stock setup, can clean up the column, etc. Focus is on the frame; pretty straight forward on that and should be kind of "relaxing". Nothing quite like a fresh new looking frame(when done);)
     
  6. Sep 9, 2019
    TIm E

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    I will be interested to hear how this goes. I have seen their ads on Houston CL and have been tempted to check them out when I go to Houston to see my father. I believe they are over off of I-45 and 290 somewhere, haven't quite made it there yet.

    If you need radiator service, you may have a place, but I had a great experience with Advance Radiator. It is a small shop, but Errol (the owner) was super helpful, dropped what he was doing to check out the radiator for my 68 CJ5, turned it around very quickly and did great work. Super nice guy who I am sure would appreciate your business. It is over near Willowbrook Mall, 12402 Ann Ln. 281-955-1348 if you are interested.
     
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  7. Sep 9, 2019
    Dne007

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    Thanks TimE;) I don't think i've ever used a radiator shop, so I'll give Errol a call in a few weeks and he's not too far either;) I just wrote the place Jeep Doors, Jeep Hard Tops Specialist - Auto Quest Jeeps and planning a trip out there. Didn't do anything today, but looking forward to getting back at it!
    Just curious and I should know this~ blasting the frame/body parts,etc. I'm looking at a wet blasting system for my 3500 pressure washer, but concerned about flash rusting, but could have some phosphoric acid standing by followed by spraying the first epoxy coating. What say you my fellow jeepers;)
     
  8. Sep 10, 2019
    Dne007

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    I was walking by the engine and noticed some water in the exhaust port(2nd plug). I didn't remember spray,spilling any water towards that port.
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    I pulled plug 2nd from #1 plug and am a little disturbed by the looks of it.
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    Pulled all the plugs and they look "OK" except for the 3rd plug from the front(forgive the way I'm mentioning firing) and it looks a little different, not sooty.
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    I put on my cylinder leak down, and just about every cylinder I hear noise coming from the oil fill(dipstick out), but nothing from the exhaust port; I'm going to spend some more time, but kind of worried about the cylinder hear now.:(
    dne'
     
  9. Sep 10, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Check for noise coming out the coolant hose. From that plug I'd say you've got a leaky head gasket or a cracked block , a common issue around the #2 & 3 exhaust valves. Can be fixed, virtually every f4 out there has had it.

    Have you picked up a factory service manual (FSM) yet? guaranteed you'll need it, the Haynes etc. manuals are useless. The "fresh" compression ratio is ~ 120 psi, anything over 105 is considered ok.

    Leakage past the cylinders is noticeable on a leakdown test.
     
  10. Sep 10, 2019
    Dne007

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    Thanks Howard, I haven't bought an FSM yet, any particular place to buy? Kind of dumb of me for not doing a compression test before taking the engine out:( However, there was no apparent blow-by or even no steam coming out the tail pipe when I did see it run. Thinking to pull the head and see what's up after more meticulous leak testing. I'm not that great at the testing part though it seems logical.
    dne'
     
  11. Sep 10, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    cruise ebay for an original, reprints are available from folks such as Walcks but the pics are a bit fuzzy.

    You're right there anyhow, why not? There's a head blot hole between the exhaust ports, the cracks form from the valve seat to the bolt hole.
     
  12. Sep 11, 2019
    Dne007

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    Hi, got kind of a problem. I do not see a "crack" anywhere. The block looks Ok, but I'm no expert. The head gasket looks dark between the two cylinders in question. I see that the pistons are .60 over, no ridge in the cylinders. I could see nothing in the head. This is new to me, where do I go from here?;) Would a crack be visible?

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    There's a leak here in the trans, can't tell if it's from the shaft or the front of the transmission.
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  13. Sep 11, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Well i have to admit I made a mistake- the cracks form to the coolant passage, not the bolt hole. :oops:

    I don't see any crack either but ypu might want to have the head magnafluxed just to be sure. from the pics I you might need to have the head checked for flatness, looks like there might be a low spot right around the center section, obviously coolant is getting in to $2 from someplace.

    If your jeep isn't leaking oil it's out of oil.:rolleyes:
     
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  14. Sep 12, 2019
    Dne007

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    Thanks Howard, going to look for a local machine shop to have the head checked;)
     
  15. Sep 12, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I boobooed again- I meant to have the "block" magnafluxed.

    Just ignore me from now on. :(
     
  16. Sep 12, 2019
    Dne007

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    oh, the block, does that mean I have to get the block down to nothing? :( I can't ignore you!;)
     
  17. Sep 12, 2019
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    Dne007

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    OMG~ thank you Hellion!;)
     
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  19. Sep 13, 2019
    Dne007

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    Well, Robo found a machine shop recommended by a shop we've used for years. He took the engine/head to them. They will check everything out, and overhaul with new sleeves, find the crack, fix the crack. 1250.oo. I wasn't there, so I don't know much about it. Just need a new distributor, oil pump(I think they install that).

    Today I was just playing with the wheels. The white spoke are the same diameter as the black wheels, but rim is wider. Something to think about;)
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  20. Sep 13, 2019
    timgr

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    Sleeves? IIRC these blocks will go 80 over with no trouble. Piston & Pin .080 L & F Head 4 Cylinder Old school block casting! Ask for a sonic check if you worry. Stitch up the cracks (if present) and fit new pistons. Possible you could use the existing pistons with new rings if the taper is minimal. Shops tend to recommend various machining "just to be on the safe side." Something to keep in mind.
     
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