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58 Willy's CJ5 Questions

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by COLLIN GRANGER, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. Mar 29, 2017
    timgr

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    If you are thinking about the leak from the valve cover gasket, it's minor.
     
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    COLLIN GRANGER

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    Yes that's what I meant thank you! Should I pull clean up and reseal?
     
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    Twin2

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    I need more lessons on puters (y)
     
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    jpflat2a

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    Steam clean or pressure wash the engine first and then watch for leak(s).

    Collin, slow down and take deep breaths.
    You've got a Jeep and your excited about that fact. I get it.

    Get the Jeep drivable and roadworthy first.
    Get some seat time behind the wheel.
    Get a feel for the vehicle.

    All the modifications you're talking about can come later, in due time.
    Think about dumping 3k into the Jeep, then you decide you don't want it anymore.
    Patience grasshopper, patience.
     
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    COLLIN GRANGER

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    It does run drive registered and inspected right before I got it. Haven't got to drive it yet because this wiring issue with the lights. I know I seem a little over the top but I have a hard time starting anything with out planning till the end and it just seems like there is so much information everywhere that's watered down with opinion it's hard to tell where to go. Right now it's just little things like this wiring and cosmetic stuff sealing things up replacing fluid and who knows I may be happy with just that but... I like the know my options. Like even simply looking up the overdrive for example you have a 50/50 split saying it's not worth it and do an engine swap to it was a perfect mod and gave just that little bit more that person was looking for. So you see my problem here. I'm just looking for a little more drivability out of it and trying to explore options for that seems to be getting no where I get it the fhead is slow and loud but I don't wanna feel like it's gonna explode doing 50 on my 20 min drive to work or next town over
     
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    timgr

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    The leak would not be first on my list.

    Does it run, stop and steer? If so, the wiring seems like job one. You need working lights to be safe and legal.

    Re tracing out the circuit, you're going to have to trace it to figure out the lights, so you may as well take notes about what you find and a sketch may be easiest. There's no secret formula to sorting out wiring... use a multimeter or test light, and start at one end and proceed along the circuit. Follow the wires back to the source, or from the source to the lights or whatever. Localize the fault and fix it.
     
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    timgr

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    Overdrive good. Even with an engine swap, you'll want one if you have 5.38s. JMO. I'll let others weigh in, but I think it's a no-brainer with 5.38s.
     
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    COLLIN GRANGER

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    The brakes are good.. for drum breaks.. brand new wheel cylinders all the way around. Steering is a little stiff but not as bad as I thought for no power. My only complaint is that brake pedal idk why it just feels awkward, you do have to press pedal to floor to get to engage once engaged works fine but from what i understand that's how they work. Runs really well for its age I'm suspecting it was rebuilt or could just be that good of a runner. Starts with no problem worst I've had is after a week I needed to pump pedal a few times and started right up. My buddy bringing it home said at 45 it sounded like a tank but was strong no sputters or backfires.
     
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    COLLIN GRANGER

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    Also do you or anyone know where I should start looking for an OD? Like if I have to I'll get the new kit but if I could save some money I'm fine with rebuilding an old one if needed. Checked like really close by junk yards here none of them have any or typically anything that old.
     
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    jeepstar

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    Money ahead buying a new od.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    That's not the way it's supposed to work, should go down a little less than an inch & firm up- the push rod is adjustable & probably needs tweaking and/or the shoes may not be adjusted properly.

    x2 gadzillion on the OD from me- I've never regretted a cent I spent on mine.

    Try Herm the Overdrive Guy for a rebuilt Warn or a Saturn unit from Advance Adapters.

    Now that being said, before you buy one the advice to drive the jeep for a bit before spending money still holds- BEWARE THE FRUMIOUS PROJECT CREEP! Installing an OD can (&probably will) lead to a transfer case rebuild, which leads to a transmission rebuild, & hey, while it's apart might as well freshen up the engine.

    And whille that's all out 8it's of course a good time to address the body issues.

    Hey- lets do the axle bearings while it's easy & fix up the frame to get rid of all that annoying flex...

    Five years & thousands of dollars later you still won't have driven the jeep enough to know what you really need to do to it to make it right for you. :(


    H.
     
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    If the first pump on the brakes goes down near the floor, then the second pump feels normal, sounds like air to me.
    I noticed your brake pedal has the ridge on the right side toward the gas pedal. Mine are reversed. In other words both ridges are toward the center. Probably don't matter.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Truth.

    You'll find all opinions here- everything from if it's not 100% factory original pieces it's not a Jeep to if it has so much as one factory lock washer left on it then it's not a Jeep.

    The right mods for you will depend on your end use, at the end of the day it's your jeep to do whatever you want, we're only suggesting you figure out what that is & get enough experience with it to know what you need to change to do it :)

    H.
     
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    jeepstar

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    Im a pretty fart smella, and had to look that up. :D
     
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    Glenn

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    Facts and opinions.......yes sorting through them can be mind boggling. A fact is plenty of us are absolutely satisfied with stock F-heads and T-90s and stock axles. As others have advised get your Jeep drivable and then you will be able to better form your own opinion about it.
     
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    timgr

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    Good eye. No personal experience, but if the brake and clutch pedals are interchangeable, the pedals are reversed. You don't want the raised edge blocking your moving your foot from the accelerator to the brake. Instead, you want the ridge to help you find the pedal with your foot, without looking. With both ridges to the center, the ridges helps you to move your right and left feet to the brake and clutch, respectively.
     
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    PeteL

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    Somehow or other, in over fifty years of driving jeeps with stock axles and tires, I've never managed to roll one over.
    Am I doing something wrong??

    Your carb leaks seems likely to be the bowl overflowing, which will come down the pump rod. Probably the float or float valve need attention.

    It's pretty normal with a 'new' vehicle to come up with a long "wish list" - but better to get to know it first. You may find a lot of things really aren't so bad. Then take one thing at a time, or it can be overwhelming.
     
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    timgr

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    To follow up on this with a little meta-advice from someone that does research professionally, this is the curse of the computer age. Unless you can be decisive, all this information leads to "analysis paralysis." It gets better once you have some experience and background - then you can start ignoring the junk and picking out the valuable facts and advice. In the mean time, just carry on and don't get overwhelmed. Make a decision to decide at the last minute, and realize that no decision is perfect. "Perfection is the enemy of the good."

    Also remember that this is a hobby car, and if you make a bad choice, it won't ruin your life.

    However, an unsafe choice could impact your life, so I suggest you think most about making the Jeep run, steer and stop. Realize that ideas of risk wrt automobiles are very different today from back in the 50s. Jeep Corp was not intentionally building unsafe vehicles - just realize that you are driving a utility vehicle that met people's safety expectations when it was built. You will have to decide whether that standard of safety is ok for you... if not, you should look for a newer vehicle that makes you feel more secure.
     
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    PeteL

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    Blowing a fuse is not from a "bad ground." If an item is not gounded it can't carry any current though the fuse.

    Blowing a fuse results from a short circuit, grounding something when it shouldn't be - such as a wire rubbing against the body or frame, or an internal fault in some accessory. Just follow that wire and look for the fault.

    Remove one fuse at a time, test your lights, etc, etc, and you can determine which wire does what.
    An adventure in simple problem-solving logic, a lost art.
     
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    PeteL

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    So true.

    It is often evident on this site many people now just want all the "answers" - instantly.
    But our vehicles come from an age when "figuring stuff out" was a manly skill. No more.

    New vehicles and many other things today are incomprensible and leave us helpless to fend for ourselves. We become fearful, dependent and vulnerable to "experts."

    Owning a Jeep can open the door to re-learning how to understand principles and systems, by opening the hood and using your brain.
    A valuable exercise in rebuilding self confidence and self sufficiency.
     
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