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"Tricks to remove old exhaust bolts?"

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by tcfeet, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. Feb 20, 2011
    tcfeet

    tcfeet Member

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    Its come time to replace the exhaust system .
    Who has the best trick to breaking loose the bolts
    between the manifold and exaust pipe? I'm in the process
    of soaking the nuts with CB Blaster now but they are really
    froze on. Rather not twist one off if possible.
    I know everyone has gone through this before, so I've surrounded
    my self with expert resourceful jeepers..
     
  2. Feb 20, 2011
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    torch.

    heat the nut only nice and glowing orange and then it should back off without destroying the bolt.
     
  3. Feb 20, 2011
    Diggerjeep

    Diggerjeep Member

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    Make sure to use a 6 point socket. Not only do the bolt rust tightly due to the extreme changes in temperature attached to the exhaust manifold, but in addition, the nuts also lose some of their diameter. A 12 point socket or open end wrench will just round the corners. You have a better chance with a 6 point socket, or you may get a better fit with a somewhat smaller metric socket.

    I have a tool called a nut splitter which is a tool used to drive a chisel into a nut to split it down one side, which works really well if there is room for the tool.

    I've also split nuts with a chisel lenthwise along the thread to get them off.

    I usually replace the nuts once I get them off with brass nuts, which won't rust onto the steel bolts. Makes it alot easier the next time you have to take it apart.
     
  4. Feb 20, 2011
    Mike S

    Mike S Sponsor

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    "Kroil" brand penetrating oil.

    Ditto on the six point socket--------and if that is still loose, try some metric sizes, you might get lucky.
     
  5. Feb 20, 2011
    repeater

    repeater I'll break it.

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    Torch. #1 priority tool of any garage.
     
  6. Feb 20, 2011
    Mike S

    Mike S Sponsor

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    I thought that was a BFH
     
  7. Feb 20, 2011
    CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

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    It is in mine!:rofl:
     
  8. Feb 20, 2011
    mainejeep

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    x2 on the aerokroil, this is actually the best penatrating oil on the market.. ...( the oil that creeps ) the sad part is you can only find it in the industrial industry. i havent been able to find it in the local flaps and they cant order it..i use it sparingly only gotta a few cans left...:(R)
     
  9. Feb 21, 2011
    pilebuck

    pilebuck Member

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    Hot wrench chainsawguy
     
  10. Feb 21, 2011
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Kroil is the best I've used. I only have 3 cases left at work..:)
     
  11. Feb 21, 2011
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    doesnt have any of his penetrating oil use fuel (diesel) the nothing better for penetration but come with the bad smell....
     
  12. Feb 21, 2011
    repeater

    repeater I'll break it.

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    PB Blaster works pretty darn well too...but not much for me is a substitute for heating something red hot.
     
  13. Feb 21, 2011
    djbutler

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    Several people said torch to heat up the nut/bolt. They are right but what no one said is to WAIT until it cools completely before trying to turn anything.
    The reason why it works is the heat expansion breaks loose the rust between the threads. That same heat expansion will have the threads in interference fit until it cools COMPLETELY, like you can keep your fingers on it cool.

    Done carefully you can also get studs out of a block the same way. Concentrate the heat on the stud, get it up to red heat while trying to minimize the block heating. After it cools down sometimes you can back them out with your fingers. Old Millwright trick.

    Don
     
  14. Feb 21, 2011
    pilebuck

    pilebuck Member

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    Thats the way to do it when you understand heat work it to your advantage :)
     
  15. Feb 21, 2011
    LarryD

    LarryD Member

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    X2 on the torch and 6 point socket, I think a 12MM socket is slightly smaller than 9/16 and that is what I used but a torch works great, If it's really stuck I heat the nut until it looks like it is starting to melt and get a socket on it as soon as possible. I haven't been able to get enough heat out of a propane torch so oxyacetylene is needed.
     
  16. Feb 21, 2011
    pilebuck

    pilebuck Member

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    Hey larry i use propane insted of acetylene safer and easy to get filled.
     
  17. Feb 21, 2011
    mainejeep

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    x2 on the propane.. cheaper too.. just takes a little more time to get it heated up..this has been a long time practice on the farms and what not. and you dont need to change your regulator.. waht actually cuts your metal is the oxygen at high pressure.
     
  18. Feb 21, 2011
    davistroy

    davistroy Grasshopper

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    14mm is slightly smaller than 9/16 (9/16 = 14.2875mm)
    12mm is slightly smaller than 1/2 (1/2 = 12.7mm)
     
  19. Feb 21, 2011
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    John Worman

    John Worman from New Mexico

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    Actually it isn't too tough to find. If no other place, try

    http://www.amazon.com/Kano-Penetrating-gallon-loosen-frozen/dp/B00361Y0RE
     
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