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15gal vs. 21gal Poly Tank

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jayhawkclint, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. Jan 17, 2011
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Need to get around to putting a new tank in my HEEP. After reading through a bunch of threads here, I think I've finally decided on poly. Now the question is to go back with 15gal, or 21gal.

    It looks to me that the 21 gal tank will fit between the frame rails the same, but hangs down 4" or 5" lower using skid plate extensions. Does anyone have a picture of this?

    Also, fuel injection is in my future. Contemplating an in-tank pump. Are there OEM pumps made that will reach the bottom of the 21gal tank?
     
  2. Jan 17, 2011
    Mcruff

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    Can't asnwer to the tank but I would stay away from the in tank pump and stick with one like Ford uses that mounts to the frame rail, much easier to replace or repair on the trail with FI if something goes wrong.
     
  3. Jan 17, 2011
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    I don't have any pictures but I have seen the 21 gal tank. IMHO it hangs too low, like way low, like getting caught on a lot of rocks low.
     
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    bkd

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    as nice as a 21 gal. tank would be I've smacked the 15 gal. tank skid more than once on the trail :rofl:
     
  5. Jan 17, 2011
    sbu22

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    Went with the 15 for the reasons noted above for mine. The tank relocation to the rear is still a work in progress.
     
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    timgr

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    Mmm. You want in-tank to accommodate EFI? I thought you had to have a specific flange for an in-tank pump, unless you went with something homebrew like this: http://www.justih.org/Binder-Bench/showthread.php?p=3677#post3677

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    Maybe a Wrangler tank will fit, give you a few extra gallons, and provide a flange for a Wrangler EFI pump?
     
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    bkd

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    Wrangler tank with in tank pump is what I did for my Ford 5.0 efi motor swap.......working great so far

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    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    You need to match the fuel pump to the EFI your thinking on using. The 4.3 is in the high teens and the Powerjection is 45. I thought about an intank pump when I built it, but am glad I went with an external pump. The fitting for the 4.3 style would not have worked for an intank to do 45 (from what I found anyway).
     
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    bkd

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    a Wrangler tank with a 4.0 HO fuel pump would put out more than enough volume/pressure for the 4.3 w/ powerinjection......it's working great for my 5.0 HO
    Jim
     
  10. Jan 17, 2011
    jarbidge09

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    I have a photo of 21 gallon tank but not sure how to post it?
     
  11. Jan 17, 2011
    davistroy

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    Posted for jarbidge09:

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    jayhawkclint

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    Thanks for all the replies. I think I'm going to get the 15 gal. I'll look into the Ford inline pump since that might also solve how I am going to draw from dual tanks.
     
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    bkap

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    That doesn't look all that low to me. It's what I'm planning to put in with an external pump.
     
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    timgr

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    NB this Jeep is a spring-over, so the ride height is higher than most.
     
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    bkap

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    Good point.
     
  16. Jan 18, 2011
    pathkiller

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    I'm using a Ford-style external inline pump on my Scrambler. I believe it's the Airtex E2000. But it pumps WAY too much PSI for a TBI application. So you have to match your EFI with your pump. The E2000 is around 65psi, and it has to run through a Grand Cherokee fuel filter with built in pressure regulator to drop it down to the 49.5psi required by my 97 4.0L system.

    They claim the E2000 works better as a pusher than a puller and will not be able to pull all the fuel out of the tank. Ford used a small internal pump to prime the external high pressure pump. I have a small low pressure primer pump mounted at the tank to feed the E2000 and it seems to work just fine even at low fuel levels in the tank.

    Finally, MTS, who make the poly tanks for Jeeps sold by various vendors, say they now market in-tank fuel pumps. If you know the specs of the pump you need before you buy the tank you can have them make you a tank with the pump built in: http://www.mtscompany.com/custom.htm
     
  17. Jan 18, 2011
    aallison

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    IIRC, the spacers used for a 21 poly tank drop the tank something close to 4".......
     
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