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inline fuel filter question

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by givemethewillys, Dec 17, 2010.

  1. Dec 17, 2010
    givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

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    Hi guys, tomorrow I'm going to run new fuel lines in my '57 and I have a few questions for ya :)

    I've installed a solex carb and a new fuel pump, the kind without the vacuum. I broke the line that runs from the fuel pump to the carb so definitely will be replacing that, but I might possibly replace the one from the tank to the fuel pump (unless I can get the line to bend to the new inlet on the pump) and the one from the carb base to the pcv.

    My first question is where should I install an inline fuel filter, and do I even really need one at all (from what I understand the solex has its own filter)? Should I use two pieces of fuel line with short rubber sections or try to figure out an all steel setup? Should the filter go before or after the pump?
    My second question is whether the brake/fuel line at the auto parts stores are ok to use. The Internet has prebent fuel lines for the F134 for $150, but a straight steel fuel line at advanced auto is only $7! Are the bends really worth $140 or am I completely missing anything? Please help!
     
  2. Dec 17, 2010
    Brem10mm

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    Mine sat outside for several years so when the big day came to ad gasoline to the tank I installed a in-line filter near the tank and another between the fuel pump and the carburetor . And my carburetor also had an internal filter. I just didn't want any chunks getting into my newly rebuilt carb. After several tanks I removed the filter down by the tank. In-line filters are dheap insurance the way I see it and easy to replace.
     
  3. Dec 17, 2010
    PaulG

    PaulG New Member

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    I use three. one high flow, between tank & pump, two in line, between pump & carburetor. I am not a big fan of the small surface area carb filters, and remove them. But that's just me.
     
  4. Dec 17, 2010
    CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

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    Concur! Agree! Can't have too many filters. I have one before and after the fuel pump..:tea:
     
  5. Dec 17, 2010
    givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

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    So I guess there isn't any problem with fuel flow with multiple filters? Do you just cut a section out of the steel fuel line and insert any old fuel filter in there? Is there a particular model or style filter that works better than others? My Jeep has sat for 10 years so its probably pretty nasty in the tank.

    Also, does anyone know offhand the length of the fuel line from the carb to the fuel pump so I don't have to go out in the cold to measure it???
     
  6. Dec 17, 2010
    aallison

    aallison 74 cj6, 76 cj5. Has anyone seen my screwdriver?

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    I would use the clear one's that you can see through. And at least a couple. And use them on a rubber section so they are easy to change.

    And I want to know about the straight lines at FLAPS as well. I need to do that soon.....
     
  7. Dec 17, 2010
    unclebill

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    i broke my steel line
    so i cut the ends square and installed a clear plastic filter with 2 short sections of rubber tubing
    but it warped in a couple months.
    so i replaced it with a metal one.
     
  8. Dec 17, 2010
    chuck123wapati

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    I have two filters one between the pump and the carb and the other in my tool box under the front seat with rubber hoses it just takes a minute to change.
     
  9. Dec 19, 2010
    givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

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    well, So I just posted this in my intro thread, but today was the first time in ten years that my Jeep has turned over! It failed to start, but I suspect that it was a combination of bad plugs and flooding that caused it.

    One thing that I'm concerned with is that the fuel pump doesn't seem to be filling with fuel. I just installed it, along with new fuel lines, and a new solex carb. Here's a picture of what I'm talking about. See how the fuel is only getting to the level where the glass meets the metal? Is that ok? Also, I haven't put in an inline filter yet, although I will asap.

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  10. Dec 19, 2010
    chuck123wapati

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    I'm pretty sure the glass bowl has to be on the bottom? or did you just take a funky pic
     
  11. Dec 19, 2010
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Glass bowl goes on top as pictured. Mine fills most of the way up, maybe your line is restricted and not getting a good fuel supply from the tank?
     
  12. Dec 19, 2010
    chuck123wapati

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    hmm new to me all the ones I've ever seen were called sediment bowls. in the old days used to catch the sediment in the gas and were on the bottom. I have no idea what the reason would be to have one on top.
     
  13. Dec 19, 2010
    chuck123wapati

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    never to old to learn somethin new!
     
  14. Dec 20, 2010
    givemethewillys

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    my old one had the glass bowl on the top too. You may be on to something with the fuel restriction idea, the line from the tank to the fuel pump was the only one that I didn't change out. What should I use to clear it out? acetone?
     
  15. Dec 20, 2010
    Glenn

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    I think I would first try blowing it out with air. Acetone wouldn't do anything that gas wouldn't do. If you have any rubber sections between the pump and tank that are old definitely replace them. Tank been cleaned?
     
  16. Dec 20, 2010
    givemethewillys

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    hmmmm, air huh? I'll have to try that. I cleaned the tank by draining all of the old gas out, then pouring some fresh-ish gas that I had laying around, then swishing it all around, then draining it again. I'm not sure how effective that was, but when I tipped the tank out, the gas looked pretty gross so I'm encouraged by the results :) I'm definitely going to be adding a fuel filter right away, I can see my brand new carb getting clogged up really quickly.
     
  17. Dec 20, 2010
    cookieman

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    :) it need the filter ...it a stone like filter,that fit under the bowl.
     
  18. Dec 20, 2010
    Glenn

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    I should have added use low pressure air of course, don't be too violent. :)

    I've of course seen sediment bowls, I wouldn't want a glass bowl hanging down exposed on a JEEP however.
     
  19. Dec 20, 2010
    PaulG

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    I must be getting to old !! What purpose does a sediment/water trap bowl serve on top?
     
  20. Dec 21, 2010
    Brush Jeeper

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    FYI the solex has a reputation of running rich and flooding easily. When mine has been sitting a while, I pour a little gas down the carb and plump the gas once. thats it. If it doesn't start , then one shot of starting fluid but I keep my foot off the gas pedal. If I had driven it within the week, I only turn the key. I keep my foot off the gas pedal. Once it cranks, I let it warm up a while before I ever give it gas.

    I read somewhere that the Solex is designed to have an intake fuel pressure of 2 psi. Most fuel pumps put out much more. Many people recommend installing a fuel pressure regulator to reduce the pressure to 1.5 to 2 psi. They cost $25 to $40 and should be installed after the fuel filter and close to the carburetor.

    I am no mechanic but I've never seen a glass bowl on top. I don't see how it would ever fill with gas. Seems to me that air would be trapped in the inverted bowl which would prevent the inflow of gasoline.
     
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