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Best choice for T14/D20 lube?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by DREDnot, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. Jun 27, 2010
    DREDnot

    DREDnot Not new to JEEPS

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    I know my FSM recommends 80W GL-4

    It seems that straight GL4 lube is rare these days and most is GL-5 with only a few that say GL-4/GL-5

    After searching extensively, there is lots of controversy over using something GL-5 compatible where GL-4 is recommended.
    Most of the talk is about newer 4spd and 5spd boxes.

    I've found this at my local NAPA and is my frontrunner as its purely GL-4.
    http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?R=SLRSL24239_0006410049

    I was wondering what the hive has been running successfully?
     
  2. Jun 27, 2010
    Jeepenstein

    Jeepenstein Me like Jeep.. 2024 Sponsor

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    regler ol 80 W 90 from autozone....
     
  3. Jun 28, 2010
    DrDanteIII

    DrDanteIII Master Procrastinator

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    GL-4 is available, and IMHO its worth it.
     
  4. Jun 28, 2010
    Buddhaventura

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    i research my butt off on this for my T150 and D20,, now i am using 50W motor oil, but dont listen to me, my tranny is still screwed up after a rebuild, wont stay in 2nd gear
     
  5. Jun 28, 2010
    DrDanteIII

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    I've also heard of good results with 50w.
     
  6. Jun 28, 2010
    nwedgar

    nwedgar Now with TBI!

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    There certainly is a lot of information out there. I think most of it has to to do with GL5 additives having too much erosion impact on the synchronizer rings...assuming they are of a yellow metal, which most are in these Jeeps.

    Most everything I've read says to use GL4...in the 80w-90 variety. Since that's what the Jeep manual states, I'm thinking that's what I am sticking with.

    This is an informative link to a PDF file discussing these issues...although he does focus on the impact to Corvair transmissions the information is valid for any manual transmission.

    http://www.widman.biz/uploads/Transaxle_oil.pdf
     
  7. Jun 28, 2010
    Buddhaventura

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    I wished i could get back all my sources, i lost everything due to a hard drive issue, and that WAS my back up,, anyway, most would be correct to say GL4 is the lube to use. What people are neglecting to realize is that 80/90 gear lube in 1975 era is NOT the same as GL4 in todays era. From my research I found that 50W motor oil is the equevlant. One note is that a single weight motor oil is Non detergant and does not have all the slippery additives and conventional oils or multi weight oils. If you do happen to find GL4 make sure its not rated for anything other then GL4. I am in Mexico and went to the Jeep dealer to find some, 40 bucks a quart is what they wanted and it was still wrong, it was labled GL4/GL5 ..i ended up finding some at a tractor supply place. I used it for 6 months and the tranny was noisy, with the 50W I have ZERO noise. Anyway, thats all I have for input, if were me, 50W, but for you, its your call, both 50W and GL4 are fine.
    Good luck on the decision.. (I hate doing that)
     
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