Brake Lines... Which Line where?

Hello All,
Doing a resto on a 56 CJ-5 and in the process (long process) decided to change out the 9" brakes w/11" drums. Picked up someone else's conversion package (for a song) and I'm now installing the brake lines.

I've got a kit (Pt.# 16737.05) however no where can I find which tubing pieces go where... Like those little "s" pieces... are they for the front? and is the rear OK with hard tubing direct to wheel cylinders?

Does anyone have a good description of the piece (tubing) and where it goes in the make-up of the brake system. In 16737.05 there are six lengths of tubing...One short rubber (which I figure is for the rear crossmember) and 3 longer rubber brake hoses 2 of which I believe should be for the front.

Any detailed photos, ot clear illustrated drawings for what goes where? I've got the CJ-5 Service manual... however it is not clear enough for my thick skull.
Thanks,
Joe in Jersey

 

Easy on the little S lines, they go on the front from wheel cyl to the flexible brake line. Of the three flexible brake lines the longer goes to the rear t (at the t then hard line to the rear cylinders) and the two shorter flex go to the front brakes. Check to see if your kit has a valve (proportioning) which goes between the brake syl and the rear brakes.

 

Thanks CPO...
The "s" tip confirms my thoughts being used on the front. Thanks.

Here's another concern:
Since the wheel cylinders are "interchangeable" meaning can go either side... which way should the "outlets" or connections face (point) on each wheel both front and back?
Right now I have all four wheel cylinders pointing rear-ward w/connections... or maybe it doesn't matter.

Finally, the longest tubing is in place in the frame, the shortest piece (approx. 6") is still a puzzle to me.

CPO, No I do not have a proportioning valve... just the two port block on the end of the master cyl. (along w/stop light switch) and the 3-way at the rear.
This CJ wasn't operating when I picked it up, so some parts could be missing; and any help is always appreciated.
Joe in Jersey

 

Your wheel cyl's should be installed with the tube connection to the rear. Bleeder screws up.

The front cyl's are the bigger ones. The "s" tube has a specific bend so to go one way only.

 

Hey Walt,
Thanks for the connection direction... I'm glad I guessed correctly

Now with those "S's"... if only one way, what is the ultimate direction or accomplishment intended for those buggers.

I'll mess around with them to see the options of each way... I know it is hard describe in print... a picture is worth a thousand words.

And that 6" piece... that one is still a "puzzler".
Much appreciate your input.
Joe in Jersey

 

Hello All,
Sunday's progress is: the rear section is all plumbed. The most reasonable pieces (which matched the contours) were put in place and it looks good.
So from the Master Cyl (singel chamber) back we're set.

Now... if anyone can give me some photos of the front... that would be great!
Not sure if I'm lacking a brass "tee" or a brass block & bracket somewhere... it looks like in the manual the tubing folows the front crossmember, however I have a piece of tubing which follows the bend in the front differential... so I'm a bit stumped.

Any help or direction to an archived thread will be greatly appreciated.
Joe in Jersey

 

Joe, you should have a bracket on left side top of front axle for the banjo fitting on long brake line, then the hard line should follow the axle housing to the right side brake...hope this helps a little

 

I hope this helps a little. Where in your system do you have the fittings for the stop light switch? These are a t fitting that the switch screws into.

http://s937.photobucket.com/albums/ad213/mbuck0261/

 

Shlink,

Yes this does help... as confirmation that one of the tubing pieces I have remaining does fit on the front (HA!).

I'll look for that bracket you mention too... Much appreciated.

Joe

 

CPO,
The photos do help, thanks! And the stop light switch I have screwed into the very end of the Mstr. Cyl.
In between the MC and switch is a 2 port brass block. one port for the rear and the other for the front. (I suspect).
Is there another block for the front, such as a TEE or 4 way block? I figure there must be an intersection to accomodate all the male ends.
Always apprectiate the input.
Joe

 

CPO...
Looking closer at the photos (#2) it appears that the brake line runs through the frame??
I found the holder which Schlink referred to and wonder if #2 photo is the drivers side front wheel?
I'm beginning to think, I need a 4-way terminal block.
More later.... Thanks.

 

Dont think that photo is of a jeep of your vintage, If I remember right there is supposed to be a strap attachment on the frame that one end of your front hose goes thru, the other end at the axle is a banjo fitting with a thru bolt, and hard lines along the axle housing to another bracket, where there is a short rubber hose about 6 ish inches long and another bracket for the S lines to the wheel cylinders, there are other ways to do this, if I remember right on later ones they eliminated the S lines and just used rubber lines at wheels.
Good luck!!

 

The photo is of the passenger side of a 69 cj....sorry...and my front brake line goes thru the crossmember and frame. It does not follow the front axle like the rear. Hope I didn't confuse the install, issue.

 

Good Morning CPO,
Thanks again for the info... No confusing, since I'm still in the "thinking/trial" stage.
I guess I need another tee or junction block for the front. I'll keep surfing for illustrated pics. before committing to final assembly.
Joe in Jersey