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Homemade bumper?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by TwilightTinkerer, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. Jun 24, 2009
    TwilightTinkerer

    TwilightTinkerer Just a guy!

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    Has anyone ever seen a bumper/rear like this? Is it stock or something homemade? I would like to remove it and install a 2 bar with hitch aftermarket bumper, however, I am not sure how the bracket with the rear two body mount bolts will reattach to the frame?:?
    Here is what I currently have...
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  2. Jun 24, 2009
    featured

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    I may be wrong, but i`ve been doing alot of research lately, alot of diagrams and parts indicate that that is the rear-most cross member and the body mounts are important. Of course on mine, the body mounts are rusted through and were only attached to the frame. If I needed a hitch i`d probably hide it right behind this cross member - that is between the cross member and gas tank - then install an aftermarket bumper outside of it all in a way that you have a "hidden hitch".
     
  3. Jun 24, 2009
    featured

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    I just realized you have the same hitch that I do. I thought mine was some heavy & hideous creation built on a farm somewhere.
     
  4. Jun 24, 2009
    kunaji

    kunaji New Member

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    That looks like the stock bumper to me.
     
  5. Jun 25, 2009
    timgr

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    That's the factory "drawbar" but maybe not installed correctly? I don't recognize where that top bracket connects to. The triangular piece that the ball goes in has been hacked off, but that's the drawbar. Very common option for the CJs.
     
  6. Jun 25, 2009
    earlswrench

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    I had the same chrome hitch set up on my '72 CJ5. It was bent upward from the PO towing stuff that was too heavy. At first, I thought it was after market because it looked so awkward and the welds holding it on were really bad (spatter everywhere, overcutting, weld wires not ground off). Then, when I got the body off, I realized that all the welds on the frame sucked. Amatuer day in Toledo the day mine came off the line, I guess.

    I grinded off the hitch but I didn't want to remove the cross member (although it looks like a cheap rear bumper, it's the only thing holding the back end of the frame together). I figure I'll get a new back bumper and find a way to weld it to the cross member in a way that doesn't look like it was done on a farm.

    I've still got the chrome hitch attachment if anyone wants it.
     
  7. Jun 25, 2009
    timgr

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    The factory drawbar bolts on. If you have the drawbar, and it was welded on, you can't blame the factory.
     
  8. Jun 25, 2009
    earlswrench

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    It was bolted and welded. I guess the welding was a PO decision.
     
  9. Jun 26, 2009
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Replace the entire rear crossmember with a sturdier unit before you bolt a new bumper on.

    Something like this, in 3/16 designed for YJ/TJ could be made to fit:

    http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/product.php?productid=16184&cat=275&page=1

    Here's a CJ7 replacement piece:
    http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/product.php?productid=16323&cat=304&page=1

    Kaiser Willys has some factory-type replacements:
    http://www.kaiserwillys.com/category/willys_framerepair

    Here's alot of discussion as related to the CJ3B rear cross. I'm sure much the same applies to CJ5s:
    http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/RearBumper.html

    Classic Enterprises makes some rear crossmembers in original gage, as well as some other cool stuff:
    http://www.classicent.com/jeep.php#car5175

    HTH
     
  10. Jun 29, 2009
    jeeper78

    jeeper78 Jeepin' N' Dunin'

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    Same setup I have on mine, and its stock.. some day I will probably change it but for now it works fine.
     
  11. Jun 30, 2009
    HeavyIron

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    I think I found your steering wheel ;)
     
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