How to remove brake drums....

I am trying to remove brake drums from a rear end D44. I belive it is out of a 1965. The brake drums and studs are attached. I have removed the cotter pin and big nut. Is there anything else that needs removed to get the drum off? My end result is removing the gears however need to remove the axle shafts to get the gears out. I am kinda stuck at the moment. I cant see anything else that looks like it needs removed. It wont even budge. I can spin it and what not so i dont think the brakes are keeping it held in. any Help would be great. I will try to post pictures here shortly.

thanks in advance!

 

Here are the pictures

 

you should be able to get drums off with out pulling hub spray some PB blaster around lug studs and center off drum and use a hammer around outside its just rusted on don,t hit it to hard.

 

are the studs and the drum one piece?

 

You definately need the hub puller like W3SRL is showing. You might want to spring for the extra 2 arms that you can buy with these pullers so you can get a grip on all 5 studs.
The studs are swaged to the drum. Do not try to beat the hub with a hammar because the likely result will be a beaten, bent drum still stuck to rear. The puller will get the thing off within 60 seconds or less.
The pullers are a bit expensive ($75ish - shop around). But you will use it a lot. Cheapy pullers will just bend and destroy themselves on these D44s.

Here is some more info:
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3b/Tech/BrakeDrums.html

 

Shouldn't there be three large screws set in the same area of the drum as the studs that secure the drum to the hub?:?

There are on my Sixty, which is the same axle setup as this.:hurrican:

 

Where in Pa are you, I had to buy one to remove the drums on my 65, If your close enough I'll bring it over.

Jay

 

Is it drivable? Try this:

Bart McNeil went to the literature: "Although I am not a mechanic and can't pretend to know anything about rear hubs, I ran into a very interesting approach to the problem in the Standard Guide to Automotive Restoration: Matt Joseph On Restoration. Joseph speaks of the difficulty of removing splined or keyed hubs from axles. The first attempt should be with a threaded puller. If this fails he cautions you against using a 'striking hub puller' which he feels can sometimes warp the hub or split the end of the axle. His alternative solution is simplicity itself: 'Loosen the axle hub retaining nuts about half to three-quarters of a turn from finger-tight and replace their cotter keys. Now drive the car a mile or two on a bumpy road. Usually the hubs will come off in your hands when the nuts are backed off the rest of the way. Of course, if the car isn't running, this won't work and you may have to use pullers or even mild heat on the hubs to remove them. If heat is used, it should be kept under 350 degrees Fahrenheit to avoid changing the metallurgy of the axle and hub. It helps to strike the hub with a brass hammer while applying force and heat.'"

from http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3b/Tech/BrakeDrums.html

 

I am near pittsburgh. Where you located?

 

Unfortunately it is not running. This is an axle that im trying to take the gears from and put in the one that is currently on my jeep. Thats a good idear tho!

Thank you,

 

I am 13 miles west of Bridgeville on Rt 50. About 30 minutes from downtown.monkeys

 

Looking at your pictures it looks like you may have the same problem I had. Your slot keys look to be off a little (mine were off around 20 degrees or so) and you will need a press of significant size to get it loose. I ended up grinding the axle t-nuts off and pulling the whole ***'y and purchasing all new components. I am not sure why my key rolled the slot edges instead of shearing in my application but hopefully you don't have the same.
:v6:
BenF

 

Finally got it off. Thanks to Desert Runner for lending me his puller. Took alot of smacks and some heat but they finally came off. Thanks again Desert Runner!

 

:tea:Glad to help:tea:

 

Hey Desert Runner, look what I just found from my pics from 2002. This was the 4-wheel jamboree in Canfield Ohio.

This was before I had a jeep but already had the jeep thing going on in my head.