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Clacking Noise F134

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by wlirio, Jun 16, 2008.

  1. Jun 17, 2008
    wlirio

    wlirio Member

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    I have already idle it without the valve cover and did not see anything obviouse except that no mess was made so I need to somehow check oil pump.
     
  2. Jun 17, 2008
    wlirio

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    ok did a quick compression test and all read about 130 except for the first cylinder counting from firewall side. That one reads about 98. I also looked and the oil is very low so it looks like it is burning more oil than I originally thought because it has no leaks but it does smoke when throttling
     
  3. Jun 17, 2008
    Don X

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    Well that eliminates a bad head gasket. Time to look a little deeper.
     
  4. Jun 17, 2008
    wlirio

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    At this point do you recommend removing the oilpan and look from below?
     
  5. Jun 17, 2008
    wlirio

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    I also noticed that there is a gap between the pushrod and the roker arm because I am able to move the pushrod up and down slightly.
     
  6. Jun 17, 2008
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    the adjustment on the intakes is .018"
     
  7. Jun 17, 2008
    wlirio

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    OK the gap it has is definitely more.
     
  8. Jun 17, 2008
    krawl

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    I would. The V8 in my truck made that sound right before a rod cap came off going down the road, somehow the bolt backed out a little bit and then finally broke. The noise came from the rod slapping on the crank until it broke the bolt on one side and bent the rod and cap on the other.
     
  9. Jun 25, 2008
    Smokie

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    What's the verdict? Have you got it fixed?
     
  10. Jun 25, 2008
    wlirio

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    Not fixed yet. I have not had a free weekend to devote time to take it apart. Hopefully this weekend I will remove the oil pan and take a look.
     
  11. Jun 25, 2008
    Smokie

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    I took my tux to town monady to get an inspection and license. Made it about a mile from the house and the rear end locked up. The PO apparently forgot to tell me the pinion bearing was bad. I feel your pain.:mad:
     
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  12. Jun 25, 2008
    wlirio

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    Oh man!!! I am sorry to hear that. I am going to stop wheeling until I fix her. This past weekend I went Ocala Florida. They have a wheeling park called Hard Rock and I got to test the TJ's climbing ability.
    Hopefully this comming Saturday and Sunday I will be able to tell what is wrong wit the CJ and I will post it back here.
     
  13. Jun 25, 2008
    Smokie

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    The gears are all ok as is the carrier bearings. $65 woth of pinion bearings later and she goes back together tonight. I have only got to drive it a mile or so and this happened. I really felt like burning it. So far i've been through all the wiring, top end of the f134, front disc conversion, master upgrade, all new brake lines, rear brakes, new seats, new starter, changed all fluids, runs good. What else is in store me thinks.:?
     
  14. Jun 25, 2008
    timgr

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    It's the way with old cars. After driving a while you mostly get ahead of the maintenance ...

    Otherwise people wouldn't buy new cars! :)
     
  15. Jun 29, 2008
    wlirio

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    I finally got a chance to work on the CJ and when I removed the oil pan everything looked good until I wiggled the connecting rod bearing cap and it moved like if there was no bearing present. This is the very first piston counting from firewall side where the clacking noise was comming from. I removed the 2 nuts holding the cap and when I removed the cap there was no bearing :shock:. The good thing is that the crankshaft and connecting rod/cap have no abrasions at all to the touch. I rubbed my finger thru it all and it is very smooth. I then decided to sift thru the oilpan and found plenty of thin like paper metal shavings. I guess I found the bearing or what's left of it R)
    I am glacl that the crankshaft if in good shape.
     
  16. Jun 29, 2008
    TheDude

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    You are one lucky man.:beer:
     
  17. Jun 29, 2008
    wlirio

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    Thanks :beer:
    Now I just need to find out what are the correct size bearing so I can replace them on all 4 rods.
     
  18. Jun 29, 2008
    Bob75CJ

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    Take another cap off. Size should be stamped on the back side of the bearing. I would have someone mic the crank and rods though. New oil pump while you are at it (more often than not the cause of a failed bearing, other than low oil).
     
  19. Jun 29, 2008
    kaiser_willys

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    x2:iagree: all it takes is a flat spot on the crank that you may or may not be able to feel to ruin another bearing, would defeniatly replace the oil pump as the trash has went through it already
     
  20. Jun 30, 2008
    Harold W.

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    I had an engine do the same thing with me. I had to pull the crank out and have it turned. While that was being done, I took out the two pipe plugs in the oil galley and with a 12 gage bore cleaner, you wouldn't belive the fine shavings of what was left of the bearing came out!! I would strongly recommend pulling the engine and doing a through cleaning on it---otherwise, when whats left of the bearing goes through your engine, it will score the bearings.
     
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