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Pitman Arm 1969 Commando

Discussion in 'Jeepster Commando and Commando Tech' started by tennjeepster, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. Jan 16, 2008
    tennjeepster

    tennjeepster New Member

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    I just purchased the Hells Creek 4 inch spring lift for my Half cab. I am wondering if anyone knows if I am going to need to chage the pitman arm while I am installing this to the jeepster. Also if I do where can I locate one of them to purchase.

    Thank once again for the help on this.
     
  2. Jan 16, 2008
    scottydive

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  3. Jan 17, 2008
    Pack Rat

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    Yes. CJ will work. Heard something about stock 80's XJ but can't remember the years that work. CJ drop pitman arms are pretty cheap though. Does Hellcreek carry them?
     
  4. Jan 17, 2008
    tennjeepster

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    No, I actually asked if he did carry them and he said no. But he also told me that there will be a good chance I will not need to replace the arm either . He wanted me to put the springs on first and see if the arm would reach or not.

    So do you know if a regular pitman arm for what year CJ would i need. Also I guess a 4 inch drop would be nice for them to have.
     
  5. Jan 17, 2008
    trickpatrick

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    Do you have stock manule steering or has it been swaped out with power?
     
  6. Jan 17, 2008
    tennjeepster

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    It is not power steering it is still stock, only thing power about it is the muscle or lack of muscle in my arm.

    By the way the springs just showed up at my door and they look great. Tom was great at hells creeks he had alot of info about this.

    Price wise he was much cheaper then Alc. springs and the kit came with everything but the arm.

    New ubolts
    Springs
    Bushings
    Shocks
    nuts and bolts
    great deal in my head

    After I get them installed I will let everyone know what I think, I am hoping to get a set of 33 inch buck shot under it. I am putting the Bucks like the coop under it. 33 10.5 15
     
  7. Jan 17, 2008
    Pack Rat

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    I know a couple of guys have gone with the 4" lift and ended up doing the drop PA. Not sure if they went a 4" or not. See what I can dig up. Post up a picture when you get everything installed.
     
  8. Jan 17, 2008
    trickpatrick

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    Manule steering is completly different than power and their isnt a Pitman arm per say.

    So be very careful about just ordering a dropped one because it will be for power steering.
    you need to get under there and take a long look and then look at one with power steering, any jeep, or most trucks, and you'll see what I am talking about.

    yours attachs too a bellcrank not a P/A.
    I may be wrong but I havnt ever seen a drop bellcrank.
     
  9. Jan 17, 2008
    Pack Rat

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    That's a good point Rick cause if it's Ross that's a whole new can of worms too. :shock:
     
  10. Jan 18, 2008
    tennjeepster

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    Patrick thanks for th thought on that I kinda figured that one out. I fugured everyone would know pa better then bellcrank. Do you think the bellcrank has enuff play to do what I want to or did I just open a massive can of worms.
     
  11. Jan 18, 2008
    trickpatrick

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    Well.

    As mentioned before.
    If you dont lift it to far you avoid alot of new prob.'s

    I cant say for sure in this case.

    The brand of lift you bought is kinda new but what I have heard,
    just heard mind you is they will sag some,
    so maybe not end up with a real 4inch lift.
    Which could be in your favor.

    You will just have to lift it and see what you end up with.
    The drag link will need to be looked at close.

    If the angle is to great compared to the center link then you will get bumpsteer.
    You can bend it to compensate but thats weakens that link not the best option.

    Bigger tires means more resistance at the steering wheel too.
    Plus it will want to wander more if the linkage is not like new condition.
    Keeping the tire width narrow will help.

    But you are on the edge of needing to go for a saginaw power setup.

    I am right there with you on my latest project 4 inch BDS YJ springs going in now.
    going for the power swap along with it.
    Wanted too anyway ,
    and figured why spend $ on refurbishing manule just spend it on the conversion.

    This entails some fab work and steering is Mucho importante'.
    So help with this may be needed.
    Welding ect. ect.

    I suspect they dont make a dropped bellcrank ,
    because people at that point are going to P/S anyway,
    so no real market for them.

    I wouldnt make one, or have one made ,just to dangerous.
    Real safety issue for you and oncoming traffic
     
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