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helicoil problem help please!!!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by 63junker, Nov 13, 2007.

  1. Nov 13, 2007
    63junker

    63junker Member

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    Hey all, I am having a nightmare with 2 helicoils on my exhaust/intake manifold.The hole have been helicoiled before and the tap does not seem to be cutting a deep enough thread. Needless to say the helicoil is pulling out. I can not get enough tourqe to get the gasket to seal. I am wondering if I can go to a larger helicoil but I am concerned about the water jacket, especially the rear one. I gotta think this has happened before, but I am not finding any threads that address this issue.I am in hopes someone may be able to give me som other ideas. Thanks Dave
     
  2. Nov 13, 2007
    green71jeep

    green71jeep work in progress

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    There is a product called time-sert give thema try they will work better in your application.Y ou can get them through Mcmastercarr, MSC
     
  3. Nov 13, 2007
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    I know them as 'Keen-sert"
    same item ???
     
  4. Nov 13, 2007
    green71jeep

    green71jeep work in progress

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    Nope a Keen-sert is a bit different but they may work good for what he doing.
     
  5. Nov 13, 2007
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    okay
    got it
    thanks
     
  6. Nov 13, 2007
    63junker

    63junker Member

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    I will look into these more.I really appreciate the responses. gotta get her back together quick. gonna be snowing and no plow Uht oh.
     
  7. Nov 13, 2007
    63junker

    63junker Member

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    Wow, there a lot to choose from. I am kinda confused on which I should go with.any suggestions on how I should figure that out?
     
  8. Nov 13, 2007
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    If it were me and helicoils aren't working i would use these:
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    We use these all the time at work, they work great!!
     
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    63junker

    63junker Member

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    if the helicoil was set past the back thickness of the casting, would this cause failure?
     
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    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Are you breaking the tang out after the heli-coil is inserted?
     
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    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    I was wondering the same thing Mike..
     
  12. Nov 13, 2007
    63junker

    63junker Member

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    yes I am but I probably should not insert to the point that it hangs out the back side right?
     
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    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Definitely No!
     
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    63junker

    63junker Member

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    the casting is not on the greatest of shape on the milled surface.That may also be causing the pulling out issue.I guess it is one more reason for a ridgid type insert.I am not sure if there is enough threads to hold due to the hole on the face.
     
  15. Nov 13, 2007
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    x3
     
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