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Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by kodyowenby10, Aug 26, 2007.

  1. Aug 26, 2007
    kodyowenby10

    kodyowenby10 Member

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    http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=130
    Would this paint from home depot work good on the body and frame of my jeep I dont want a show jeep finish but I want it be be smooth and not scratch easy and it pretty cheap compared to automotive paint.
     
  2. Aug 26, 2007
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

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    Use two part Acrylic Enamel single stage paint. It's not that expencive and is easy to fix. I'd stay way from oil based paint. It would work great for painting a house.
     
  3. Aug 26, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    X2...the metallic gold I'm using on my CJ5 is ~$26/quart and came out looking pretty good even though I'm a complete amateur. Granted you'll have some other costs in thinner, hardener etc but overall it's pretty reasonable cost-wise.
     
  4. Aug 26, 2007
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    I used implement paint on my frame with an added hardener. Do a search; there are a couple guys here that have done it. Very happy with appearance and durability so far.
     
  5. Aug 26, 2007
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    I used the rustoleum spray cans on the 6. With lots of prep and patience you can get an acceptable finish. The one big problem has been around my gas tank filler neck, any gas that spills that's not immediatly cleaned up will cause the paint to bubble.
    I've got the 6 torn down right now for a re-build, I'm going down to the local auto paint suuply for auto paint (new color in the works)
    Good luck...Jim S.
     
  6. Aug 26, 2007
    junkfood

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    I don't know if it fits your needs but here is a interesting idea about doing it with a roller. I copied it from the Mopar forum. One of the guys on the local Jeep board tried it here and it came out great.

    "here's how i painted my car for about $50, it's actually very easy and the results are amazing. First off, get a can of tremclad real orange (or what ever color u want) in the can, not spray, yes tremclad, it is a acrylic/enamel paint which is very durable. next prep your car as if was any other paint job, fix all the rust, ect....no need to prime the car since the tremclad allready contains elements which allow it to be painted over bare metal. next, after prepping the car get a small 4" professional FOAM rollers, it's tiny and has one end rounded off, and the other cut straight, and is a very high density foam. u also need a jug of mineral spirits to thin the paint. The thing i really like about this is that there's no mess, no tapeing the whole car, just key areas, and u can do it in your garage, since your not spraying there is virtually no dust in the air, just clean your garage first, also it does'nt really smell at all, dries overnight and it super tough paint. also it you decide to paint the car professionally later, just prep and paint, there's no need to strip the tremclad. i have done this to a few cars, and i can say it works amazing, u just have to be paitient. next u thin the paint with mineral spirits so it just about as thin as water, a little thicker. get out the roller and paint away, don't get the paint shaked when u buy it, enamel is stirred, otherwise you'll have bubbles in the paint for a week!!! after u do 2 coats, wet sand the whole car, then repeat, 2 coats, wetsand, 2 coats wetsand. i painted the charger using a can since your not spraying the car u use all the paint and not spray 50% in the air, use progressivly finer sand paper each time. it's not really that much work, cause u can stop and start any time, u can do just a door, or the hood, ect. do one panel at a time, and don't stop once you start. once your done the final coat, wetsand with about 1000 grit to a totally smooth finish, and then using a high speed polisher i use a buffing bonnet and turtle wax polishing compound. do the whole car with this, and i'm telling u, depending on the amount of time and paitence you have, the results are amazing. laugh if you want, but for $50 ($30 for paint, about $20 for rollers, sand paper, ect...) it really looks good. also you can do these steps overnight, paint one evening and by morning u can wet sand. i have personally done alot of painting, mostly single stage acrylic enamel, and i've sprayed several cars in my garage with really good professional results, just it stinks, it's a real pain to do, easy to make a mistake, messy, and expensive. The tremclad is awesome paint, the "real orange" is an amazing hemi orange, and almost looks like it has some perl in the sun, awesome color right out of the can. I used this technique on my 1974 beetle also, here are the results:
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../Picture10.jpg
    the car before:
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/IM000475.jpg
    another after pic:
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC00164.jpg
    here is a car i sprayed (71 beetle, midnight blue metalic):
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC00194.jpg
    here is the car before (71 beetle):
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/Picture1.jpg

    here's a few pics of the charger done:
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC02764.jpg
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC02769.jpg

    well that's my 2 cents worth, sorry for the long post. i was borred lol
    i painted the orange beetle in 1999, and it still looks like the day i painted it, the 71 blue beetle i painted in 2000, and built the car for my dad, i used the same paint on my charger, maybe one day i'll spring for a good paint job, prepping is 90% of the work, stripping the car, sanding, ect.....painting is overrated!!!
    So if you have TIME, then i'd say go for it, the worst that could happen is that it does'nt turn out and your out $50, but if your paitient, and expriement with lets say just the trunk pannel and if you like it do the whole car, if not just get it done by someone else for $4000. i don't know about you guys, but i would rather spend the $4000 on other parts like getting the mechanics sorted out and new chrome, cause when u have really nice paint and crappy bumpers, door handles it just sticks out more."

    Keith
     
  7. Aug 26, 2007
    kodyowenby10

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    Where can I find two part Acrylic Enamel single stage paint.
     
  8. Aug 26, 2007
    kodyowenby10

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    Also I have a spary gun that I can use so there will be no need for a roller
     
  9. Aug 26, 2007
    Rmeak

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    I know that it is now the prefered method but I plan on using the rustoleum paint for the first stage of my build. I plan on taking this Jeep apart again when my son is older, for a father son project, so I really do not what to spend too much $$$ on it now for a Jeep that is just going to be used on the trail. I painted the entire frame with their flat black, thinned it out with acetone and shot the frame, one quart for about 8 bucks, turned out good.

    I have been experimenting with various colors and mixing them up. Right now I am using one quart hunter green, one quart sunburst yellow and a pint of metallic aluminum. The result is kinda like that new Jeep color "Resue Green", I have tested it on a few test panels(old hard top) and it looks good in the shade and the sun. For a trail Jeep that will probably scrape a few trees, drag itself over a few rocks and on occasion take a trip to the store for a gallon of milk, or maybe a Leadville parade, it looks good to me. Not to worried if it fades, for about $20 for the above mixture compared to the auto paint stores quote of about $130/quart for the paint alone, rustoleum it is for now. I probably won't paint the '55 until next summer but when I do I will post pics and how the paint holds up.
     
  10. Aug 26, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Talk to your local auto parts store.
     
  11. Aug 26, 2007
    Bob75CJ

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    paintforcars.com enamel$35- $39 lacquer $79. This is per gallon plus shipping, 15 for first I thunk 12 per addition gals. Never painted a vehicle us lacquer very forgiving and easy to repair. Limited colors here though. Little more expensive but any color you want is tcpglobal.com about the same for 144 pre mix colors, if you want factory colors price about doubles.
     
  12. Aug 27, 2007
    Bob75CJ

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    Used lacquer on my old 66, i3 coats figured if i messed up or damaged it is easier to blend in. Didn't have it long enough to screw it up. But the paint came out great for a first paint job. Have since done more. Used paint from both places. like tcp a little better but both work good. pfc says reduce lacquer from 2/1 to 4/1 but 1.5 or 2/1 works great. High paint to solvent is to be EPA correct.
     
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  13. Aug 31, 2007
    Grumpy58

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    In 1978, I painted mine with Rustoleum. Turned out fine for runnin around. Not a show room paint job, but all the areas that were painted, have not rusted after 30 years.

    http://home.earthlink.net/~mrstaves/index.html

    Top right pic is the completed paint job, currently being restored.
     
  14. Aug 31, 2007
    kodyowenby10

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    Is that the same paint I was asking about The oil based stuff?
     
  15. Sep 4, 2007
    Grumpy58

    Grumpy58 New Member

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    Yes it is...Chestnut Brown Gloss enamel.
     
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