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110 Migs...

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Dondo, Jan 9, 2007.

  1. Jan 9, 2007
    Dondo

    Dondo These are my good pants..

    Hutchinson, Kansas
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    Anything I should know before purchasing one? My welding experience is pretty limited, but I've always wanted a little mig for the garage. I'm just wanting one to work on a spare tire rake, new seat brackets, etc. Nothing really major. What should I look for? Any brands to stay away from? What can I expect to play?

    Any help you guys have would be great.
     
  2. Jan 9, 2007
    firegod33

    firegod33 Member

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    I had/have a Craftsman that was made by Century. I hate it. I believe that Lincoln is now producing the welders for Craftsman. If you stick with red (Lincoln), white (Hobart), or blue (Miller), you can't go wrong.
    I replaced my Craftsman/Century with a Lincoln SP175 and love it!
     
  3. Jan 9, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm happy with the Lincoln 110V that I have, but if you can find one with a variable voltage (rather than the 4 or 5 position that the Lincoln uses) so much the better.
     
  4. Jan 9, 2007
    BenB

    BenB Member

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    I have the Hobart 140 and like it. I have only had it for a couple of weeks so I'm not sure how valuable my opinion is. I bought mine to build a tire rack and the fact I just had some body work done, and the jeep painted. I told the guy doing the work no Bondo, just cut out the rusted areas and weld in new sheet metal. Needless to say that is the last time I am going to pay for someone to work on my jeep. I got mine from northern tool for 460, included the cart and free shipping.

    I think Miller and Hobart have a similar/ almost same products because Miller owns the Hobart brand, my welder came with a miller gun. I could be wrong.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2007
    CJjunk

    CJjunk < Fulltime 4x4

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    I looking into getting a Mig welder too. The Lincoln SP 175 is the one I'm leaning towards. A welder friend offered to teach me and suggested I get something that I could grow into. He says a 220 will extend my limitations for bigger projects as I learn.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2007
    Dondo

    Dondo These are my good pants..

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    Hmmm. Something things to think about. The thought of running a dedicated line for the welder didn't cross my mind. I see that most of the specs on the several of the Miller/Hobalt models indicated 14 to 18 amps. You'd pretty much have to keep them the only thing on the circuit. Can I assume that the welders at Harbor Freight are about the same quality as most of their other stuff? Meaning mid to low quality?
     
  7. Jan 9, 2007
    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

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    Dondo, I have a HF MIG welder I bought several years ago and have run well over a couple hundred pounds of wire through it. It has allowed me to do all kinds of things, including 1/4" steel tubing and welding aluminum. (need argon for aluminum) Just did get a bottle of 25%/75% for it, and has really helped getting my welds cleaner looking.

    I did have to add a 110v computer fan to it to keep the duty cycle from tripping all the time. (And it did trip....a LOT) But once I mounted the fan (exactly where the designers intended, but where the bean counters left it out) the duty cycle went up to dang near 100%.

    If I only had a little money, I might get another one, but if I had a little more money, I'd get one through a local welding supply, at least as good as I could afford. But whatever welder you get, if it does end up being 110v, you definately need 20 amps at a minimum. Any less, and there is noticably less penetration.
     
  8. Jan 9, 2007
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    i have used the lincoln sp175 at the university and like the continuous voltage control rather than the tapped 4 or 5 position switch. helps with thin sheet as well as thicker (even with my crappy skills) nice welder. even though i am mainly a oxy acc welder i a not a particularly good mig welder. so... fwiw. thinking of getting one when $ permit for my art work (and of course jeep fabbing) along with my oxy/acc torches.

    i have heard that the new lincoln 175 are now using the same wire transport and guide they use in their professional series.
     
  9. Jan 9, 2007
    VintageJeeper

    VintageJeeper New Member

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    I have a mac tools 140 and it hasnt failed me yet, but i got it for half price $425 instead of $850 which makes me feel better about it.
     
  10. Jan 10, 2007
    jeepen

    jeepen Member

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    I bought a lincon 220v welder it is almost like the 175 110v but I can weld a little thicker steel. stay with a good brand name then shop arround and you will do fine. If you can have some one give you some help and a few lesson a little peractice you will be a welder.
     
  11. Jan 10, 2007
    Desert Runner

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    I have the Lincoln weld pak 100 W/ mig option. At the time it was cheaper than the sp135. I've had it several years, but the "tips on welding" thread has helped me immensely. I finally managed a 3inch "stack of dimes" bead. My son looked at me like I was crazy, when I started jumping up and down, and yelling.... but since I'm working on his Jeep..... he was happy too.

    Jay
     
  12. Jan 10, 2007
    speedbuggy

    speedbuggy Looking for a Jeep now

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    I bought my 110 flux core at Walmart some 3 years ago. I used it for everything I needed to on speedy. It never failed. Didn't pay too much for it either. Harbor freight would be a good place to start.
     
  13. Jan 10, 2007
    Jeepman252

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    I'm wanting one of these migs too.

    Anyone looked at the Clarke brand?

    Here is a pic
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  14. Jan 10, 2007
    JeepTherapy

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    Typical household circuits are wired to handle 15 amps. Adding a 30 amp breaker on a 15 amp run of wire is dangerous. 14 gauge wire is used on most household circuits and are designed for 15amps or less. When I wired my garage I went to 12 gauge wire and did 20 amp circuits just for the welder. If you want to run a 30 amp breaker you should run 10 gauge wire. The 110 volt welders are at the very edge of what that 14 guage wire can handle. It will get hot.
     
  15. Jan 11, 2007
    jeepen

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    :iagree:
     
  16. Jan 11, 2007
    Chris Insull

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    I bought a MM DVI in Jan '06 and love it! The nice thing is it will run on 110 or 220, with just the change of a plug. I've welded up to 1/4" in a single pass in the 110V configuration, with excellent results. Try www.cyberweld.com for some comparison shopping... with the free shipping it may be hard to beat them for a quality machine. HTH!!
     
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