Transmission or transfer case broke

Re: Transmission of transfer case broke

Does this jeep have a PTO Winch? I have accidentaly driven away from the house W/PTO in Gear and had the same type experience.
Just asking.

 

No winch or any other accessory is attached at the PTO.

 

I would say take the back cover off of the trasfer case (directly behing the input). It's a round, flat, plate held on with about 6 bolts. And take the oil pan off the bottom. This is one of the (many) great things about the D18. You can get a real good look inside to see if something is wrong. I had teeth break off of the gears when the intermediate shaft got too much wear. Check the nut that holds the input gear on. Wiggle things around. Look very closely with a light and a mirror.

You could also put the t-case in neutral and run the trans through the gears with the engine turning slow. This might reveal a problem with the trans. You can also take the top cover off the trans to peak inside but you have to remove the floor panels first.

HTH

 

Thanks for all of the suggestions/responses.

At this point my main issue is how to safely (without causing further damage)tow it to my insurance broker so they can do there inspection on it.
It hasn't been registered in 25 years and for some reason they want to check it outR) .
I've got till the end of the week and plan on doing it tomorrow.
Seems like N/N should be the best but it made noise that way when I towed it home from where it stopped.

 

Well.........couldn't have had more then 5 miles or so with the new gear oil in it and I really don't know what the mechanic put in it. So I don't think that the GL-5 could have melted my parts yet

As far as the drivetrain bind........I don't know, it's still making noise. It sure felt like something like that...I started thinking maybe it was the rear diff but that didn't add up.

I took the very good suggestion of putting the t-case in N and running it through the gears.
1st and 2nd were fine , 3rd and 4th make noise . Kind of a grinding, growling noise. Nothing real loud but plenty loud enough to know (now) that it can't be OK and I assume that it is the source of my problem.

So i still gotta tow it to the insurance agent.......

Now I have to decide if I'm gonna pull it myself or not.....as you've all probably figured out I am not a mechanic but I have done a few clutch jobs so I may be able to handle this.
Sounds like the hardest part is separating the tranny from the motor/bellhousing (and getting thru all the grease/dirt/oil sludge).

 

To get your Jeep to inc. for inspection pull the rear drive line and tow it down there with the tow bar. I think you sead you had one right? By pulling the drive line and front hubs unlocked the trans and Tcase wont turn.
Now as far as your trans/tcase problem ck the fluids for metal it will look like metalic paint. your information on the problem doesnt help to dignose because the power flow through the trans changes from 3rd to 4th. The only other safe way to get a Idea were the noise is coming from would be to drive it and have some one other then the driver put a ear to the shifters.

good luck

ps the more you drive it the more $$ it will cost to fix.

 

Would I pull the drive shaft completely or can I get away with just pulling the back and hanging it somehow?

 

Yes pulling off the rear dif yoke would work fine.
Again make sure front hubs are unlocked.

 

I spoke to a guy at Scotty's Jeep local to me here in So Cal today and he asked if I flat towed the Jeep. I said that I had a little getting her home and fixed up and that it had a tow bar on it before I owned it.

He said the T-98 trans can suffer damage by flat towing even if you tow in N/N.
Anyone prescribe to this theory?

He did say that the tranny was relatively bulletproof and that it is probably a bearing......not sure about the lock-up bind thing?

 

If it is the t-case, why would it only make noise in 3rd and 4th?

I'm gonna drain them both when I get home from work today, see if any chunks come out

And thanks for bearing with me with all of my seemingly redundant questions>

 

Seems to go from no noise to making noise. I had the rear end on jack stands and basically went through the gears idling and it was very noticable when I hit 3rd.
Going to garaage now to drain fluids....take off lower cover on t-case.

 

I was reading thru this and was hoping there was an awnser to this. Does anybody know what the out come was. The reason I ask is my 57 makes a similiar noise to what was described.

 

Trans., I wonder about the cluster gear bearings? Tcase, try the intermedate gear?

Dale

 

he had both rebuilt
no pics, but the story is here:

http://earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39751