half cab with roll cage?

Does anyone have any experience with a roll cage/bar and a half cab at the same time. I am getting ready to put my cab back on and have been wanting a roll bar/cage of some sort. I don't want an exo cage and want to be able to take the cab off for the summer and still use the roll protection. Is this too much to ask :?

 

How was it built? Any pics?

 

Don't BS me like that. I almost saw light at the end of the tunnel there.

 

I had actually talked this over with some jeep guys around home here and we weren't sure how easy it would be to line everything up. The truck cab style would be the easiest, but I'm a little worried about room.

 

I would think if you wanted a full-cage affect without cutting up your halfcab you'd have to modify a stock rollbar to fit behind the cab, and make an in cab cage such as a pickup has. It would be difficult to fab yourself, and expensive to have someone make it for you, but I'd think that it'd be possible.

 

pipe binder would be nice huh?

A single hoop is a very good idea though.

 

What size, thickness, and kind of pipe does everyone recomend on cages/bars? I appreciate the input.

 

Why not a standard roll bar, like the earlier factory ones, outside and behind the cab. With the idea that somthing is better than nothing, this, I think would be the easiest and give the most freedom to take the cab on and off.

Or, is that what a single hoop is?

 

Nope, someone mentioned a single hoop inside the half cab. To be honest I don't know if an old style roll bar would fit behind the cab. I have my doubts.

 

In my experience with single hoops and rollovers, the main hazard to the passengers is the windshield hinging back into the cabin. I don't know that this is any better or worse with a hard cab, but there is more metal to bump into in a hard cab.

For a slow sideways rollover, a single hoop or pair of hoops (front, rear) outside the half cab would certainly be better than nothing. For a front-first roll or flip (BTDT), the single hoop will prevent you from being crushed, but will not protect your head from the windshield. My experience is that Meyer-style hard tops disintegrate in a rollover, providing no protection and likely more hazard.

 

what about a single hoop in the cab with wrangler bars to the windshield(if there's room on the frame) on the interior. it could be strengthened with a diagonal cross bar to prevent folding to the side. then modify a rollbar for the exterior the same height as the interior bar.

IMO this setup shouldn't fold to far back as the front hoop would hopefully stop folding if/when it hits the rear hoop. if it were to fold forward the old cranium should still be protected by the rear bar.

this is what i half in my half cabbed wrangler. the inner and outer hoops are about 4" apart. i also added a shoulder height bar across the inner hoop for harnesses.

just a thought

 

I have a half cab for my 66 cj5 and built my roll bar so that I would still be able to use it. I must say though, it looks kinda funny since, as mentioned, the roll bar has to be mounted farther back, and makes for quite a steep angle between the hoop and the uprights. This is the only pic i have that sort of shows what it looks like, although its somewhat hard to see with my $10 soft-top and bike in the way.

 

Thanks for the pic Austin. That idea was mentioned to me once but I couldn't picture in my mind what it would look like. That helps a lot. Not sure what I'll do just yet. I'm sure it will become obvious sooner or later.

 

Ill be building a full interior cage for my Half cab CJ5 this winter. ill post about it when I get around to fabing it.

 

Don't use anything called "pipe", whatever you do. Get steel tubing, mild steel like 1020 is fine, no need to spend the $$ on chromoly, and unless you stress relieve your welds when using cro-mo it's no better than the cheaper stuff is anyways.
Most steel supply houses can supply you with more info and materials. I had to study this stuff a lot in the motorcycle racing days.
Seen a few pix of cages and roll bars made of pipe and also of exhaust tubing by folks saving a few bucks that had been in rollovers and wrecks. Might have well used toilet paper tubes and duct tape. Ouch.

 

Found this perusing some old threads.

http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showpost.php?p=231762&postcount=9

 

Thanks, I like the look of that. It looks like a factory bar that was shortened and the back hoop and top bars added. Is that what it looks like to everyone else?