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shackle reversal

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by james, Aug 12, 2006.

  1. Aug 12, 2006
    james

    james New Member

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    I am looking to buy CJ-5 frame 72-75,it has reverse shackles installed,I would like to put them on normal.This lifts the jeep to much and I do not want that much of a lift.Is it easy to reverse them?
     
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    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Were they reversed with a kit that included a lift? Or by PO hack job? Usually the lift is more due to the springs used.

    My $0.02...skip it and find a frame that hasnt been messed with.
     
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    cj-john

    cj-john Member

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    I would like to see a pic of the frame. I am getting ready to reverse mine, 72 frame, and I was hoping it would not lift my Jeep any. The shackle reversal can be a good thing if its' done right.
     
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    cj-john

    cj-john Member

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    Another question about the shackle reversal. Did they also do a spring over conversion? That could be the source of the lift.
     
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    james

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    Here is a picture of the schackles
     
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    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Shackel reversals usually do lift the vehicle about 2" IIRC. But it does appear to be a spring over as well.

    Unless you're comfortable with the work that went into the SOA and the SR I would pass and find an unmolested Jeep frame.

    If it's just the SOA adding too much lift a SR is desirable in most instances, improves handling usually.
     
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    james

    james New Member

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    Can the springs be moved to under the axle and leave the schackles alone or will the shackles have to changed also.
     
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    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    You would need to redo the spring pads. Or find some different axles.
     
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  9. Aug 13, 2006
    JeepTherapy

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    It is very easy to "undo" a spring over axle. If in fact that is the question your asking. You will need to take steering and drive shafts into consideration. The way that rear is positioned it is set for a CV joint shaft. You can carefully cut spring pads off and reuse them, but easier and better to buy new ones. They are not that expencive. The front is the more difficult axle to reposition. Look to see if it is an origional spring under axle front that has been adapted to fit. If not you will have to deal with adapting a spring perch to fit around the cast. BTW, that picture wasn't a shackle reversal. A shackle reversal is on the front springs. The picture is SOA or "Spring Over Axle"
     
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  10. Aug 13, 2006
    james

    james New Member

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    Here are some more pictures.Wil this be a easy just to move the springs under the axles?
     
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    JeepTherapy

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    I would think it would be easy enough ot "undo" what has been done. It doesn't even apear to have a bunch of ugly welding on it. The issues I would be concerned of; modifications to the steering, caster angle caused by the heigth change in the spring mount locations with the shackle reversal, pinion angle with the shackle reversal, proper drive shaft for a shackle reversal (long travel).
     
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